Update… House passes red flag gun-grabbing bill…

Posted by Kane on June 24, 2022 2:56 pm

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UPDATE

 

WASHINGTON — The House passed the most sweeping gun legislation in nearly 30 years on Friday, sending the bill to Joe Biden’s desk to be signed into law. The bill passed the House 234-193 on Friday afternoon, with 14 Republicans voting with all Democrats to support it.

 

Here are the 14 House Republicans who voted for the bill:

 

Fred Upton of Michigan
Peter Meijer of Michigan
Steve Chabot of Ohio
Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Mike Turner of Ohio
David Joyce of Ohio
Liz Cheney of Wyoming
Chris Jacobs of New York
John Katko of New York
Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania
Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
Tony Gonzales of Texas
Maria Elvira Salazar of Florida
Tom Rice of South Carolina

 

 


 

 

Senate passed the bill last night…

 

In the end, 15 republicans voted Yes.

Blunt
Burr
Capito
Cassidy
Collins
Cornyn
Ernst
Graham
McConnell
Murk
Portman
Romney
Tillis
Toomey
Young

 

The House will reportedly vote tomorrow…

 

 

 

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attilathereasonable
attilathereasonable

In lieu of any new legislation CA and NY are now constitutional carry states, in theory. Wouldn’t want to be the test case for these, however…

Maga King Delivers
Maga King Delivers

Just what demonrats want: a foot in the door.

Cameron
Cameron

Response from Senator Tillis

Dear Mr. Rice:

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts about the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (BSCA). I appreciate hearing from you.

I am proud to have worked in a bipartisan manner to work with my Senate colleagues to develop a commonsense proposal to protect America’s children, keep our schools safe, and reduce the threat of violence across our country. The BSCA is the result of extensive negotiations to develop legislation that will save lives while preserving the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding Americans. The full Senate voted 65-33 to pass the BSCA. I look forward to seeing this important measure signed into law.

Recent acts of gun violence, particularly those in Uvalde, Texas and Buffalo, New York, sparked a national debate about how to prevent future attacks and how to keep our communities and our loved ones safe. These recent mass shootings are a sad reminder that evil exists in the world. Deaths from gun violence are truly tragic, and my heart goes out to all those impacted by these senseless acts of terror.

The BSCA is a carefully negotiated response to gun violence that will make our communities safer by expanding access to mental health services, investing in school safety, strengthening existing laws, and funding crisis intervention programs.

What does the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act do?

The BSCA provides significant investments in mental health services. This includes investing in school services such as early identification and intervention programs and school-based mental health and wrap-around services. It also increases access to mental and behavioral health services for those in crisis using telehealth programs. The BSCA also provides for a national expansion of Certified Community Behavioral Health Clinics that will provide 365/24/7 mental health care services in our communities.

The BSCA supports school safety measures, including school violence prevention efforts, as well as providing training to school personnel and students. It also provides funds to provide academic enrichment and youth development opportunities which will help improve outcomes for students by connecting them to community organizations. The BSCA also includes funding for mental health resources, drug and violence prevention, mentoring, crisis intervention, and high-quality training for school personnel on suicide prevention and human trafficking.

Finally, the BSCA strengthens existing laws to help crack down on criminals who abuse our firearm laws, while also protecting the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding gun owners. This includes encouraging states to upload juvenile records into the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), providing for an investigative period for buyers under 21 to review juvenile and mental health records, criminalizing straw purchases, clarifying the definition of a firearm dealer, and providing protections for domestic violence victims. The BCSA also provides grant funding for crisis intervention and violence prevention programs which also include mental health courts, drug courts, and veterans’ courts.

Does this legislation create new background checks and waiting periods?

No, the BSCA does not expand the background check system, does not change the age to purchase a firearm, and does not create a mandatory waiting period for all purchasers. Instead, the BSCA works to strengthen our existing background check system by ensuring juvenile records and mental health adjudications are considered before issuing a firearm to an individual under 21. For someone without a juvenile record, they will still be able to purchase a firearm on the same day. If a juvenile record is found, there will be an investigative period in which authorities can determine if the juvenile record would be disqualifying had the crime been committed if the individual were an adult.

Will this legislation create a national “red flag” law?

Absolutely not, the BSCA does not create a national “red flag” law. Further, it does not compel states to enact crisis intervention programs. Instead, the legislation provides formula funding for all states to enact violence prevention and crisis intervention programs that are best suited to the needs of their state. This funding can go towards crisis intervention programs, mental health courts, drug courts, veterans courts, and other programs to reduce violence and keep our communities safe. It is ultimately up to each state to determine how this funding will be used to best serve the needs of their residents.

What guardrails does this legislation put in place to protect due process for law-abiding North Carolinians?

I am very concerned about protecting and preserving our constitutional rights, which is why I fought to ensure strong due process protections were included in this legislation. For states that choose to use crisis intervention order programs, the legislation requires strong due process and evidentiary protections to protect our constitutional rights and prevent abuse. That means new due process guardrails for states with existing crisis intervention order programs and for those that choose to implement new ones. This includes both pre and post-deprivation due process rights that include notice, the right to an in-person hearing, unbiased adjudicators, knowledge of opposing evidence, right to present evidence, right to confront adverse witnesses, and the right to be represented by legal counsel. It requires heightened evidentiary standards to justify crisis intervention and requires penalties for those who attempt to abuse the program.

I am proud of my work to advance commonsense, bipartisan legislation that improves mental health care, strengthens school safety, and saves lives while protecting the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding North Carolinians. I am grateful for the work of my colleagues Senators John Cornyn (R-TX), Chris Murphy (D-CT), and Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) to find common ground and produce solutions.

Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me. Please do not hesitate to get back in touch with me again about other important issues.

Wolfmother
Wolfmother

Ohio is SCREWED!
Steve Chabot is useless and a waste of skin.
Dewine is the crap I scrape off my boots coming in from the fields.
Ohio will go blue in Nov.
Blystone split the vote in the primary and mark my words, MAGA
will never color in the lines for Dewine. They see him as no different than The dem running and
She’ll win handily. Same with Chabots seat.

Oxy-moronic but the populists nationalists that are the tip of the America First spear, have had a belly full
and will not hold their nose again. No matter the consequences. They see no difference.

MrZlooze
MrZlooze

With “allies” like these, who needs enemies? Consider giving the next GOP donation caller a righteous big heap of feces when he asks for money!!!

RatedProduct
RatedProduct

Four, supposedly conservative, Ohio representatives went toes-up just when they were needed.
What the hell is going on over there? Disgraceful.

Discretion in support is essential. Upgrade your BS detectors folks!

Wolfmother
Wolfmother

This^^^^^^^^

DROP
DROP

Start recalls on every freaking one of them.

TNGranny
TNGranny

Passed while everyone else is focused on SCOTUS decision.

WindUpRubberFinger(dot)com
WindUpRubberFinger(dot)com

Funny how these things always seem to line up. Hmm…

George E. Poorjee
George E. Poorjee

“Young” was listed several times. Don Young is dead

Samuel Clemens
Samuel Clemens

Todd Young

eaglenest
eaglenest

Thom Tillis, Senator from North Carolina simply cannot be trusted with anything.

He’s now, waiting for the political winds to allow him to vote for amnesty for millions of illegal aliens and criminals.

Wolfmother
Wolfmother

We are simpleton pheasants to these turncoats.

He’s lighting his cigars with 100 dollar bills along with Chabot of Ohio.
A quick look at their donor class on Open Secrets speaks volumes and tells you
everything you need to know.

something else
something else

every state has it in their power and authority,

to nullify these laws in their state

Dana
Dana

This can’t stand.

Jim H
Jim H

Bastards!

Just another Nobody
Just another Nobody

And, the RNC still can’t understand why people will not contribute to the RNC or any National Republican Campaign other than Trump.

Joe Patriot
Joe Patriot

These RINO’s are enemy number one.

Joshua Grace
Joshua Grace

I’d like to make 15 reports on the following mentally unstable people. I really think an investigation is in order:
Fred Upton of Michigan
Peter Meijer of Michigan
Steve Chabot of Ohio
Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio
Mike Turner of Ohio
David Joyce of Ohio
Liz Cheney of Wyoming
Chris Jacobs of New York
John Katko of New York
Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania
Adam Kinzinger of Illinois
Tony Gonzales of Texas
Maria Elvira Salazar of Florida
Tom Rice of South Carolina

They have been provocative with their words, have misgendered people. They have not always followed the science, and we’re once rude to a minority For these people to have a gun, represents an egregious harm.

DIY guy
DIY guy

And have shown to be mentally unhinged

MrZlooze
MrZlooze

They are also illiterate on the Constitution!

Jello
Jello

From The Rutherford Institute web site:
https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/red_flagged_nation_gun_confiscation_laws_put_a_target_on_the_back_of_every_american
Red Flagged Nation: Gun Confiscation Laws Put a Target on the Back of Every American
By John W. Whitehead & Nisha Whitehead
June 14, 2022

MAGA AF Butcher
MAGA AF Butcher

RINO hunting season?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill

Just be like Mad Maxine and tell ’em your laws don’t apply to us.

Helix
Helix

Nice list of RINO’s there. Will keep it in mind.

Just an Average Guy
Just an Average Guy

Bye-bye 4th amendment.

Nancy P’s Butler
Nancy P’s Butler

Traitors

Whatever
Whatever

Can someone tell me what red flag laws are.. I’ve been busy.

IntrovertedOreo
IntrovertedOreo

Basically, its an easier way of someone calling the cops on you if you are a gun owner and they can say you harassed/made violent gestures at you and the police can come along and take your guns and lock you up/fine you without due process. Aka legalized snitching on gun owners. Stasi style.

IntrovertedOreo
IntrovertedOreo

Imagine house wives faking domestic assault chargers on her gun owner husband. Anyone can abuse this. Think COVID Hotlines but towards gun owners instead.

Daniel Miller
Daniel Miller

Yup, this is going to end badly.

Samuel Clemens
Samuel Clemens

Angry girlfriend revenge law

Beemr
Beemr

Get ready for all the disgruntled ex-spouses and the Karens of the world to start filing ridiculous, false claims in the name of revenge. Taking away property without due process is unConstitutional! Period!

Jay
Jay

When women have rights, they don’t need red flag laws to file ridiculous, false claims in the name of revenge. The court system is already biased against men. But red flag laws might level the playing field a bit for men.

JM
JM

The Traitors have been Identified. Next step is their removal.

Juliana
Juliana

Note the timing of the 2A infringement vote on the same day as the SCOTUS decision on Roe. As always these freaks stack functions. Let’s distract everyone with Roe while we take a huge step toward illegally disarming all the deplorables when we declare them domestic te**o*ists during the next lockdown. You know it’s coming.

IntrovertedOreo
IntrovertedOreo

They planned for Roe V Wade to be scrapped, Democrats don’t care if babies are born alive or dead, they want to end current society and mold it in their own image. Only leftists and blissful idiots don’t know it because they’re that dumb.

DEZ nuts
DEZ nuts

Wow I knew all this was too good to be true

They still will get your guns

Joe Biden The Addled Babbler
Joe Biden The Addled Babbler

Oh, they’ll get them all right!

Hallmark
Hallmark

Way to make em squeal Jonnie!

DanielT
DanielT

I am so happy my rep John Katko has decided not to run again.
This is the 3rd time he has voted against our interests.

IntrovertedOreo
IntrovertedOreo

Hey, Syracuse! Rochester here! Its ok, we don’t send our best either 😂

Gary
Gary

It’s an example of Government exceeding their Power.
When the Government no longer works for the People, it’s Corrupt and unconstitutional, and no longer is taken Seriously . It’s a time of uprising and unrest. Beware of a Nazi type takeover where people no longer have Rights, because Congress works for themselves.

JBROUX
JBROUX

Cassidy is a blight

Brewmore
Brewmore

There should be a marble plaque installed in DC with all these names inscribed so people will remember years from now who the people were that tried to give our rights away. They should be remembered in infamy.

moe
moe

Basically the typical miscreants.

Linda
Linda

Attempting to Regulate Federally Will End in the Supreme Court.

No One
No One

5/2021: Scotus stated red flag laws unconstitutional, what the house and senate are doing is unconstitutional and they continue to attack the 2nd Amendment anyway they can regardless if its legal or not.

SimCzech
SimCzech

The recent ruling on the 2A re NYC MAY present a precedent to challenge this law as soon as it hits the books. We can hope, anyway…

M
M

Red flag laws = “You voted for Trump and are white? Hand ’em over.”

No One
No One

What a load of BS, more like democrats abusing people they do not like by calling in a red flag moment.

Proud Pureblood
Proud Pureblood

Sure officer! One bullet at a time! Which caliber do you want first?

Angel
Angel

They need to know that there careers are dead. Completely DEAD!!!

Jewel516
Jewel516

Makes it easy for us to vote in the primaries.

ER
ER

The funny thing is that red flag laws that bypass courts have already been ruled unconstitutional.

Scott
Scott

Not legal , next