CITIZEN OPEN THREAD.

Posted by Kane on February 12, 2025 12:00 am

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Excellent video on National Debt from Congressman Schweikert

 

 


 

 

NOTE FROM KANE

As long as the headlines can be seen, green and red showing up as black for example, that’s fine.

I thought they couldn’t be seen at all for colorblind readers — invisible headlines.

So I’m not worried about it now. Thanks for all the feedback below.

Carry on, CFP Nation.

 

 

 

 

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Mama Pajama
Mama Pajama

War is hell. Praise God the Donald Trump wants to end it.
Happy somber Sunday Patriots.

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Texdeb
Texdeb

🥲 Yes – Happy somber Sunday Patriots – it does feel just that way today!

NoTwoSystemsOnlyOneChiCom
NoTwoSystemsOnlyOneChiCom

“Exact Moment Deadly Fire Rips Through Goa Nightclub, Leaving 25 Dead | WATCH”
https://www.republicworld.com/india/exact-moments-of-deadly-goa-nightclub-blaze-caught-on-camera-during-the-mehbuba-performace

Mama Pajama
Mama Pajama

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Thunderbird
Thunderbird

The ship the Japanese surrendered on

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Thunderbird
Thunderbird

God bless the men of the Arizona

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Thunderbird
Thunderbird

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Thunderbird
Thunderbird

Never forget how quickly your peace can be shattered or those who fight every day to maintain it.

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Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

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When 500 Knights Overwhelmed 26,000 Muslims — The Clash That Secured Europe’s Future

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

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Thunderbird
Thunderbird

Amen!

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

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P D Q
P D Q

Followup question: Dad, what does fiat currency mean?

Thunderbird
Thunderbird

🤣🤣 Dad is going to have a long day!

Maris
Maris

For sure!

ChesterMcCloud
ChesterMcCloud

“Iran awaits second plane of nationals deported from US”
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2025/12/07/iran-awaits-second-plane-of-nationals-deported-from-us

“In defense of Trump’s Iran policy
Trump’s presence in the White House is an exceptional opportunity a pillar of strength for global stability, a more secure Middle East, a peaceful Persian Gulf, and an empowered Israel. Opinion.”
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/418899

flyinpiglet
flyinpiglet

PHD… Pearl Harbor Day.
Most of that generation is now passed on or in “retirement”, but the rest of us shouldn’t let the world forget.
My Dad was younger, but drafted towards the end of the war. He served his whole enlistment stateside. He was charged with making sure Army recruits were “water safe”, i.e., they wouldn’t drown getting off of landing craft at the beach, parachuting into a pond, etc. He spent most of his day taking recruits (some “terrified” of heights and water) off the three meter platform. One after the other, climb the three meter ladder and off with the next guy. Some of those scared sh1tless dudes were “huge and a handful”. Dad talked about this experience exactly one time. In a car as I drove Mom and Dad by Fort Ord on the way to visit the newly opened Monterey Aquarium. I watched my Mom’s face in the back seat via the rearview mirror. She was astonished by what she heard – he’d never shared any of it before. People he didn’t know from his home town (a college town where his father taught and led a department) that knew his family befriended him and helped him find that role. He was an excellent swimmer and fearless in the water. He served his time and moved on to civilian life, raising a family in relative obscurity. He was a happy guy, married to a wife that was devoted to him.

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

What a lucky man you are to have had a dad like that!

Mama Pajama
Mama Pajama

very very fortunate man.

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

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Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

President Franklin D. Roosevelt Declares War on Japan (Full Speech)
War Archives

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

Good morning from Missouri!
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Maris
Maris

Morning, TC.

Dee
Dee

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Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

Gmornin dee!

Maris
Maris

Morning, Dee.

Dee
Dee

Good Sunday morning CFPers ☕️☕️

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MI Girl
MI Girl

Just poured my first cup! Stressful times going on here- my Dadi is in the hospital, but that presents an issue with his dementia. My hubs or I are always with him, but he’s starting to get cranky and confused with his routine disrupted. At 98, he has never really been ill or spent time in a hospital so we have our hands full thankful, tho, for caring nurses and aides. So ….bring on the coffee!

Dee
Dee

Aww. Not easy what you are going through!

flyinpiglet
flyinpiglet

God bless him! 98? I tell my 96YO Mom that she gets to have whatever preference she wants – she worries that she might offend someone or be judged badly. I tell her, “Not a chance, at 96 you get a free pass on all of that”. To which, she giggles and laughs, thanking me for saying so. Give your Dad a hug from “an online stranger” that applauds him for his resilience and for raising such a fine, loving daughter… [Dee, Good Morning – thanks for sharing…’-]

flyinpiglet
flyinpiglet

Recently, Mom shared that she hates her daily vitamins. She didn’t want anyone to know that she secretly discarded them everyday. She has been doing it for months and just told me, sharing that it felt like a huge act of delicious rebellion. I was rolling on the floor laughing! She swore me to secrecy… ‘-)

Without “giving her up”, I had my sibling replace the offending vitamins with something different. Mom reported that she has a new vitamin that she likes, but will now miss her “little, daily act of rebellion”, too. God love her… if you are in your 90s… do what makes you happy! We all love you anyway.

flyinpiglet
flyinpiglet

MIG! Reading comprehension fail first thing on Sunday morning! Doh!
[Dee, Good Morning – thanks for sharing…’-]

MI Girl
MI Girl

Thanks, fp for the kind words. It means a lot. 💗. I get their acts of “rebellion, in their minds they are still 35 and vibrant! He doesnt get why he cant just so what he wants in the hospital and being out of his daily routine is so hard on him.

A HARD RAIN
A HARD RAIN

Coffee and Prayers for your beloved Pop !

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

Universal truth alert
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WeatherWitch
WeatherWitch

Me too

💗 Hisssy 💗
💗 Hisssy 💗

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Kennedy Center Honorees

💗 Hisssy 💗
💗 Hisssy 💗

Maybe Kane Can Fix That For Me

Unless He Is Back Out Post Game Tailgating

Fixed.

💗 Hisssy 💗
💗 Hisssy 💗
Thunderbird
Thunderbird

In honor of my 2 uncles that were on Hickam Field Army Air Base in Pearl Harbor the day the Japanese attacked. They both survived the war and told me all about that day and the days that followed.

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Thunderbird
Thunderbird

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Thunderbird
Thunderbird

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Texdeb
Texdeb

Thank you, Thunderbird! God bless your uncles – how lucky for you to have the first hand stories of their experiences. Here we are at Dec. 7.

MI Girl
MI Girl

Excellent, Tbird. I have a great uncle that survived it also. I wish he had told us more about it

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

Write it down!
My granpa told hundreds of WW2 stories, later in life he would start one and trail off then pick up another one then finish the first one.

Oldrealist
Oldrealist

Good on your uncles for their patriotic service during dire times.

You are very fortunate to have in your family eye witnesses to a momentous event. Eye witnesses don’t see everything, but the boots on the ground of personal memory reveals a lot more of the reality of historical events.

I read lots and lots of history. Eyewitness accounts always reveal more than what historians choose to describe as significant for them.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird

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💗 Hisssy 💗
💗 Hisssy 💗

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Mama Pajama
Mama Pajama

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flyinpiglet
flyinpiglet

The long-awaited originalism debate is finally here! Charles C.W. Cooke, Richard Epstein and John Yoo argue the meaning and limits of originalism, how constitutional text should be interpreted, whether long-standing practices can override original meaning, and where modern doctrines—from Article I courts to immigration policy—fit within the founding framework. It’s a spirited, clear, and tightly argued conversation about how the Constitution should function today. [Includes **audio link**]
https://www.aei.org/multimedia/the-big-beautiful-originalism-debate/

flyinpiglet
flyinpiglet

Misunderstanding Originalism [The more that I’m exposed to scholarly original-ism, the more I agree with it…]
John Yoo, December 05, 2025

Merriam and other critics are correct to observe that originalism does not advance a “new constitutional morality.” It does not promote “good” or “bad” outcomes—it simply enforces the constitutional rights and structures established in the constitutional text as understood by those who ratified it.

For example, originalism does not ask whether a right to bear arms makes sense in terms of a natural right of self-defense, a social contract theory of government by consent, a traditional state provision of public safety, or a utilitarian calculus weighing the benefits of gun control in reducing violence. It simply asks whether those who ratified the Constitution would have understood the language of the Second Amendment to protect an individual right to possess firearms. In District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) and McDonald v. City of Chicago (2012), Justice Antonin Scalia in the former case and Justice Samuel Alito in the latter one may have looked to natural rights theory, but they did so only to understand the historical context that gives meaning to words such as “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms.”

Calls for a “new constitutional morality” rest on a mistaken view of the courts and their role in constitutional interpretation. When originalism fails to produce the moral outcomes Merriam and other critics prefer, they treat this as a defect in the method. But originalism does not supply a moral philosophy—it is a method of interpretation. It keeps judges within the boundaries of the proper judicial role set out in the Constitution.

Presidents and Congress, no less than governors and state legislators, play the primary role in identifying public morals and implementing them through statutes, regulations, and executive orders. As Alexander Hamilton argued in Federalist 78, the “proper and peculiar province of the courts” is “the interpretation of the laws,” not pronouncing or enforcing a specific morality. Judicial review arises only because a court, confronted by “an irreconcilable variance between” an act of Congress and the Constitution, must enforce the law with “superior obligation and validity,” in other words, the Constitution. As Hamilton concluded, “[T]he constitution ought to be preferred to the statute, the intention of the people to the intention of their agents.”
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/misunderstanding-originalism/

flyinpiglet
flyinpiglet

The whole piece is excellent…

Oldrealist
Oldrealist

Thank you for a lucid summary.

Originalism seems philosophically neutral on the issue of the Constitution as a moral stance, though the founders certainly had moral stances.

Originalism’s best use seems to be swatting down all the Johnny-come-lately moral philosophies that want to re-interpret the Constitution to reflect some current fad of moral perfection.

It would appear that our Founders had this in mind by leaving morality to religion rather than including it in the Constitution. Their separation of church (morality codes) from state would seem to confirm originalism.

Just my thought, as I’m neither a lawyer nor a moral philosopher.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird

Some music for the boss tonight

Thunderbird
Thunderbird

Justa nobody
Justa nobody

Perfect compliment to tonights game!!!

helterhaze
helterhaze

IU game – holy smokes

Mama pajama
Mama pajama

Great game!!!

A HARD RAIN
A HARD RAIN

Go Hoosiers !
Go Dawgs !

Thunderbird
Thunderbird

Indiana fans will be celebrating big tonight.

💗 Hisssy 💗
💗 Hisssy 💗

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somebody is celebrating…

How bout those Hooisers.

💗 Hisssy 💗
💗 Hisssy 💗
flyinpiglet
flyinpiglet

Too cool. TGBTG… ‘-)

Mama pajama
Mama pajama

God bless: Go Hoosiers!

Justa nobody
Justa nobody

Awesome game and thrilled with the outcome 😁

Maris
Maris

The dastardly NJ Dems are at it again. Committee sneaked in a quick vote on S4360 (anti-outside gun ranges) while they thought the good guys weren’t around. Well, the good guys were (NJ Rifle & Pistol and NRA) and word has gotten out via all the clubs and ranges. Any NJ citizens here, it’d be nice if you could contact your NJ state senator and tell them “NO”. Thanks.

flyinpiglet
flyinpiglet
P D Q
P D Q

Somali pissin’ pirate desecrates Trump’s Hollywood star.

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Newzjunky
Newzjunky

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helterhaze
helterhaze

Kane – I did a little digging and those McDonald’s full page pop up ads seemingly affect Mac’s, and the Edge browser. It is also likely to be a rogue extension or malware. I myself have not seen these ads on any CFP pages. Put another way, it’s alomost sure to be JLHightower device and not related to CFP.

I know a few different readers who have had trouble with the McDonald’s ad.

I personally have never seen it.

Dee
Dee
Maris
Maris

Points earned.

A HARD RAIN
A HARD RAIN

RE: M7.0 EARTHQUAKE

Haines Junction, Yukon , Canada.
USGS reporting M7.0 Hubbert Glacier , 12-6-2025, 10 km depth.

( M 6.0 or larger is a major earthquake. )

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal
Thunderbird
Thunderbird

Nite TC catch you on the flip side.

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

For those feeming a Flashback…

Pink Floyd & Frank Zappa – Interstellar Overdrive (Live)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zBBHk_zNOFE&pp=ygUWZnJhbmsgemFwcGEgcGluayBmbG95ZNIHCQklCgGHKiGM7w%3D%3D

Frank is the only one not tripping…

Thunderbird
Thunderbird

Now that is some rare footage.

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

Not sure if I found it or it found me…
What a world.

Sharkfin
Sharkfin

👍

mouthy
mouthy

Go iU! 13-0 😳

Oldrealist
Oldrealist

Drug Dealers Destroy Americans. Eliminating Drug Dealers Saves Americans.

Our nation shamefully tolerates many harmful “addictions” – drugs, socialism, cheap immigrant labor, gender dysphoria, moral cowardice, etc. These addictions make our citizenry fearful and weak. Fearful, weak citizens will never Make America Great Again.

The realities of our massive drug problems are simple.

1. Drugs cause great harm to our people.
2. Drug dealers profit from hurting us, so they won’t stop getting rich.
3. Decades of old style “War on Drugs” tactics (police, arrests, courts, jail) HAS NOT reduced drug addictions nor driven drug dealers out of business. It has given politicians an excuse to posture at pretending to do something.

The legal approach to ending our drug epidemic has failed. This failure has recently been made far worse by liberal politicians, prosecutors and judges crying crocodile tears about violating the “rights” of criminals. Liberals are more concerned about protecting criminals than they are about protecting suffering citizens.

The police and courts strategy to end our drug epidemic has failed. What we need is a new, more effective strategy that has an actual chance of ending our drug epidemic.

An actual shooting war on drug dealers is an obvious choice. Trump’s newly named Department of War is currently executing what may hopefully be the Lexington and Concord moments of an actual shooting war on drugs.

We should be praising President Trump and Secretary of War Hegseth for accepting the scale of the drug threat to Americans, and, taking concrete action with our weapons of war.

One of the best things about blowing up drug shipments and killing drug dealers outside of America is that drugs and criminal bad guys are eliminated outside the jurisdiction of liberals in our justice system.

Trump needs to declare the drug threat a “clear and present” danger to our nation and authorize our military to fight an actual war on drugs outside our borders.

Liberals will screech and whine, but, past presidents have effectively conducted wars outside the USA. President Trump has the Constitutional authority, AND SWORN DUTY, to protect the USA from all domestic and foreign threats.

Surely, the cruel suffering of Americans from our vast drug epidemic qualifies as a “clear and present danger” far worse than the fantasized dangers from COVID.

An actual shooting war on drugs will proceed differently than wars with other nations. But, killing the enemy and destroying enemy equipment and infrastructure will be the same. Liberals will scream loudly, and, probably support a large anti-war on drugs movement.

Mass liberal street protests to defend drug dealers who are killing and destroying our citizens SHOULD convince the majority of normal Americans who are sane that liberals are dangerous neighbors who should never, ever again hold any elected or bureaucratic offices.

Here’s hoping Trump makes a shooting war against criminal drug cartels a major step in actually Making America Great Again.

Kill ‘em all. Let God sort ‘em out.

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

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Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

Bridge Of Sighs (2024 Remaster)
Robin Trower

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

Eye of the Beholder (Remastered)
Metallica
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pEBp9ulELLA

Just imagine the retirement homes when my g g g generation gets there…

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

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Thunderbird
Thunderbird

This is hilarious!

Thought Criminal
Thought Criminal

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Thunderbird
Thunderbird

☝️💯Yep

Maris
Maris

Agree.