College was so ridiculous when I graduated High School, I enlisted in the Navy Nuclear Power Program.
2 years of school – mine was Electronics Technician for one year, then a year of Nuclear Power School.
Served 8 years and had a GI Bill – revoked – when I got out.
When I enlisted a veteran supposedly had 10 years to use the GI Bill. Congress suspended payments on the Vietnam Era GI Bill 12/31/89.
Lesson – there may be a GI Bill when you enlist. It may not be there when you get out.
So “THE GI BILL” is a definite maybe for veterans. In my case – it was nada.
Roger
Work hard, pay your bills and we will get along fine.
alex
The Germans don’t give free college for knuckleheaded self awareness studies. They go to engineers.
Dennis ClY
My sentiments exactly!!
Ben Favorite
Just wondering where this “free” tree is that keeps growing all this “free” stuff? Do you have to fertilize this tree, and if so is the fertilizer free? The labor of the person that will fertilize the tree? The plumber that installed the water lines to bring water to the “free” tree?
I love when idiots throw around that “free” terminology! Just because YOU don’t pay for it doesn’t mean it’s “free”!
Camay
We have “free education” paid for by taxpayers from Kindergarten through 12th grade. After that any further career choices are up to you! Which means YOU PAY!
doug mason
because america wastes most of the tax money and colleges are now a huge money making monster that uses your parents net worth as what you will pay and donate to the school.
Frankiev
Probably because in Germany a years worth of college doesn’t cost $70,000 per.
Gary
Nothing in life is free. Who pays? The rich? Define rich.
Malcolm Smith
It’s a matter of preference. I prefer a country where higher education, like health care, is free; that is, paid for through taxation that is progressive, ensuring that those who are better off financially pay a higher share for the common good. In Scotland, for example, this has meant that rich and poor have access to free education at universities, technical colleges, teacher colleges and police colleges. Before free higher education was introduced, many working class people could not afford to go to university. Likewise, before healthcare was free, people died due to lack of access, just as they do to this day in the United States. To my mind, it’s difficult to ethically defend a system where access to education and healthcare is based upon one’s ability to pay. That might be ethically defensible if there were a level playing field, but that is never possible in reality.
Frankiev
Perhaps you need to move to one of those failing liberal bastions of socialism like Cuba or Venezuela where everything is free and nothing is available or of importance.
Malcolm Smith
Or move to one of the Scandinavian nations – democratic socialist countries. But, I’m fine living here. I might feel differently if I were struggling to make a living.
Pete Juvet
You don’t seem to understand that the GI bill was introduced to those who served their time in the military defending this country and other countries as well.
The GI bill is still here you just have to earn it by serving in United States military.
There ya go cupcake
DeplorableHoosier
but please don’t waste it on k9 gender studies…. as a matter of fact, Stay away from anything with Gender in the name
Bill
You sir are a socialist…
Bridge
You, of course, are referring to corporate welfare. Please learn the definitions of communism, fascism and socialism, which includes various types, such as Democratic socialism, which is what we’ve been since FDR and the New Deal. Damn!!
Ben Favorite
Also why the US is $30trillion in debt!
Lyle Slagle
$33 trillion, and $8 trillion just in the last two years (and counting….rapidly)! Thanks to biden and his handlers. Much of it was used up buying votes for cash, and facilitating the worsening of the massive CRISIS at our southern border, both of which are impeachable and convictable. Republicans, you’ve got to start the ball rolling! Get to it!
Whiskey Alpha Lima
$33.5 Trillion and counting!
No such thing as free!
Malcolm Smith
Yes. Guilty as charged.
Toddmehserle
Hard looking in the mirror if it’s your face looking back at that frown
DeplorableHoosier
And yet HOW many people are rushing the borders of Scotland??????
You are able and welcome to move to Scotland
I paid my education off myself, and my kids as well. I WILL NOT pay for someone else’s education unless I PICK THE Classes, and there WILL BE NO K9 Gender Studies, that I’ll guarantee.
Jim
After agreeing to the extreme university prices with far left professors teaching radical ideas, you want to change the rules and dump the cost on someone who never agreed to the stupidity.
Dawn
I think the cost of “higher education” plus the “benefits” of a college degree are ridiculous. I went to a local community college in the 1960s where tuition was $50 a semester plus lab fees and books and a parking permit. I commuted to school and lived at home with my parents, worked in the family business and did my chores without complaint. No student loans. I did have a scholarship that paid my tuition. I was studying to become a school teacher which was one of only 3 career choices for women at the time (other were nursing or secretarial/bookkeeping). They were really pushing for teachers at the time which meant the career path was full of aspiring teachers when I graduated after 4 years.
I married and had a family but had to reenter the work force in the 1970s. There was a surplus of teachers and few positions opening up. God opened up a new career path for me in social work, Children’s Protective Services. No, I was NOT one of those child snatchers. I worked with parents to keep their families intact. During the course of following that path, the State of Texas made a stipend plan available to its employees and I was able to go into a Master’s Degree plan for Social Work. No student loans. I agreed to work for the state for a specified period of time and signed a contract and I worked full-time and went to classes on the weekends, spending one semester on campus as a full-time student.
I retired from Social Work in 2011 after working with people from the cradle to the grave. I worked for the State, for hospitals in discharge planning and social work, for Hospice and Home Health, and as a mental health therapist in nursing homes and eventually in a locked unit for adolescents.
College was NOT playtime for me. I was not in a sorority and neither were my friends. I lived life much as I had as a high school student. Yes, there were football games to go to and social events, even a political rally or two but for I was there to prepare for teaching junior high/middle school and high school subjects, English and history. Little did I know that most history teachers were actually in the coaching profession and taught history as a side line and their wives (former cheerleaders) did the same with the English classes. Rude awakening.
Now the colleges have multi-million dollar athletic complexes and stadiums. The coaches are millionaires and make money on the side endorsing products (shoes, vitamins, sporting equipment, vehicles, etc.). Is it any wonder the colleges are turning out a “me” centered group of child-adults who majored in the easy “Mickey Mouse” courses of study that amount to a big nothing at all?
Joel Leson
Germany’s educational system is not like ours. Nor is its government. Look up how their systen is run and the tests the children must take to advance in their educational sytem. Those tests detremine which kids go to vocational schools or which go to college. We have local public education (i.e., like the Philadelphia or Waco, TX Boards of Education). Each US city and county run their own public schools and receive their funding from local taxes, with possibly some funds provided by the state and from grants from the federal government. I live in Fairfax County which has a high tax base and which runs a very good school system. Trying to compare Germany education syten to ours is like comparing apples to lug nuts – ther is no comparison.
T.R.W.
Free for first year, then they start weeding them out. Then if they want to continue, they pay themselves.
Levi
Relax boys and girls…. it’s not happening….but they did trick all those brilliant college students into voting for them!
Joel Leson
Political prostitution is alive and well in Washington, DC.
Upchuck
Wait till Fetterneck votes in the Senate
Dennis Laston
Yea, all those College kids that thought they were so damn smart already, voted for the Idiot, and will never see their College education reimbursed. Live and learn🤬
JD
It’s only free if you go into the career they choose for you.
Michael Lavender
The reason college has become “unaffordable” is because the government encourages student loans and guarantees payment if they default. As a result, our institutions of higher learning have an incentive to continually increase the cost.
Remove all student loans from any government guarantees and you will see the number of loans decrease. and the cost will start reducing to be competitive relative to benefits the students will have in relationship to their cost.
SKIP MOORE
EDUCATION WHICH IS HIGHLY DESIRED WILL BE WORTH THE COST. IF IT IS FREE WHY MAKE AN EFFORT? YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. IN MONEY AND EFFORT.
tag
We already have “free education” offered from preschool through High School every where without expecting a demonstration of success in preparation for College already for those students willing to attend regularly and participate in the process. Is there any empirical data that suggests those unwilling to do so to this point are going to change at “Graduation” How is “free” working out for taxpayers now?
Camay
The other reason is the high salaries of these so called “professors” who average $300,000. a year sometimes for part time work. That’s not counting their lifetime insurance and retirement benefits! THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS PAY TO HAVE OUR KIDS INDOCTRINATED WITH LIBERAL HOOEY!
Steven
Hang on, “average $300,000 a year”? I don’t know where you get your information, but since the 1970’s colleges and universities mostly hire teachers as adjunct professors. This let’s the schools off the hook for “perks” such as a position guaranteed for even the next quarter or semester. If also means no retirement benefits, and many often need to work at 2 different schools just to make ends meet. If you are made an assistant professor then you may be on a career track to eventually become a full professor, but unless you author something like a popular textbook or other writings that give you notoriety, you teach because you really think it is the best thing you can do for yourself and the country. I know one professor near retirement at a high end (expensive) private college in Southern California who makes $150,000, but he is head of his department, written a lot, and has been teaching for 30+ years. I believe the upper administrators are the ones to pull down the big bucks, and if all they are learning is “LIBERAL HOOEY” then where is it written you have to pay for such schooling? Maybe we should have sent and paid for our kids to go to Trump University?
rooter
if you cant find a job…. teach..
Harrison Douglas Fortney
This student loan program was nothing but a vote getting scheme by Demorats to get the college students vote with other people’s money. The courts may throw it out as unconstitutional. Just shows how corrupt our system is. This is just miniscule part of the corruption. It will be over when we are so far in debt that no one will want to hold US dollars as they will be near worthless. Think Rome, Venezuela, Argentina, Germany and others. Our politicians are sick for power at all costs to the taxpayer. It’s time for fiscal responsibility and honest politicians. Probably not possible.
Apache
fjb and the demorats
Cookie
DamnOcraps
Robert
funny…. but still communism… NO ONE has a right to have their debts paid for by public funds; ANYONE has a right to attempt to solicit donations if they have fallen on hard times; but being a fool and buying what you cannot afford is the price of stupidity… and only other stupid, immoral, irresponsible people would be suited to help such out. People can donate toward causes they think are worthy. ZERO public funds are to go toward ANYTHING that is charitable, no matter how good a cause; not even disaster relief.
EVIL
This is exactly how I view this entire question. And, this view is from an over 80 year person who has seen plenty of life. I am also sure that this will never come to be! Surprised it has gotten this far, but then I know this country seems to be changing and not for the better either!
Sandy
ANYONE BUT TRUMP!!!
Skip
IT IS AMUSING TO HEAR THE OUTSTANDING JOB THE DEMOCRATS AND THE MSM DID ON OUR IMPRESSION OF TRUMP’S SUCCESS AS A PRESIDENT, AS THE EFFECT OF THE CONSTANT BRAIN WASHING RECEDES, PERHAPS OVER 50 OR SO YEARS, HISTORY WILL RECOGNIZE WHAT HE ACCOMPLISHED INCLUDING MASSIVE PEACE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN ISRAEL AND SEVERAL ARAB STATES, INSISTING ON NATO COUNTRIES TO PAY UP THEIR SHARE OF COSTS, OF ENGAGING THE CHINESE AND KOREAN GOVERNMENTS TO BEGIN RELATIONSHIPS ( MAYBE THEY HELP, MAYBE NOT), THE PULLING OUT OF THE DISASTROUS NUCLEAR PACT WITH IRAN WHERE THEY GAVE US NOTHING AND WE AGREED TO NOT INSPECT. WHAT HAS OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT ACCOMPLISHED THAT WILL BE RECOGNIZED AS IMPORTANT BY HISTORY. PRESIDENT TRUMP GREW UP A GAMBLER IN THE REAL WORLD. WORLD LEADERSHIP IS GAMBLING. BETTER TO HAVE PRESIDENT WHO HAS THE NERVE TO GAMBLE. THE COUNTRY GAMBLED WITH ELECTING JOE BIDEN. VENTURE A GUESS HOW THAT ELECTION WERE REDONE NOW.
emile buisson
never made a loan without having some type of collateral or co pay info, colleges need to take some responsibility for this mess, sad this administration can not understand basic lending practices
Roger Bacon
Make the universities refund the loans if they give a student a worthless degree and they haven’t earned X amount after 10 years leaving school. Do that and universities would completely shut down their Women’s Studies programs, “Gender Studies” and all the other worthless social degree programs.
Michael Lavender
Better to have the lending institutions determine the interest rates charged based on the degree that is being sought. Then remove all government subsidies and guarantees, make the individual responsible for payment, just they would be if they bought a car or anything else on credit.
allonright
What these spoiled brat snowflakes either 1) haven’t been told or, 2) don’t understand, the ‘forgiven loan’ is going to show up on their tax return as earned income. Just wait till they have to pay taxes on that debt. The tiny little leftist heads will be exploding everywhere…this is exactly why this information is not coming out before the mid-terms.
Joan
More rational thought from the middle of the country.
Still wondering how our president got elected by s
Still wondering how the president got elected by sitting in his basement
Ginny
Me Too….Good Grief….Will check with the “cemeteries” on how they “voted”!!!!:(
Still wondering how our president got elected by s
Still wondering how our president got elected by sitting in his basement
Karen Gilbert
I am from Delaware, we watched Biden do nothing for years. I did not vote for him. We did not realize that he would go off the rails this bad. Had a discussion with a guy yesterday, he has not idea what is going on “what laptop”? When I said “10% for the big guy” blank stare. Actually had a woman tell me with a straight face “we don’t have a border problem. We are screwed, period.
It is sad and unfortunate that Pelosi’s husband got attacked. I bet he will go to jail yet a guy that ran over someone and killed him got out on bail and all others in California walk free. Our country has become so ridiculous.
Dawn
I remember when Joe Biden was called for plagiarizing and had to drop out of his first attempt to run for President. Then there was the time he was caught lying about his education and how smart he was. He claimed to graduate at the top of his class with 3 degrees. He actually barely graduated with one. He was at the bottom of the ranks! I don’t guess you have to be smart to be a crook or to be a crooked politician. Must be demon possessed??
Financial Frank
how smart he was????? Biden failed 3rd and 7th grades, had to take the BAR exam three times to pass. And today, he remains the worst President ever to have the title!
Anchor Mann
Jill was the Brandon family babysitter when she was young… she knows just what she got into, and probably has a tidy bundle hidden for when the old codger kicks off.
Dawn
She was married and she and her husband were volunteers in the Biden campaign. They were young newly weds hence she babysat Joe’s kids. When his wife and baby daughter were killed in a car wreck, she was ready to step in as wife #2. We can see what a magnificent job Jill and Joe did in their raising!
Dwane
A retired high school shop teacher who spent over 200K paying off college loans putting 4 kids thru college. Where do I apply to get my money back ?
Dawn
Thank you for biting the bullet and paying off your loans. You are to be commended. Couldn’t have been easy.
Vanessa Tillotson
Oh! The horrible shock when you realize your Poly Sci degree is worthless, unless of course, you work on MSNBC.
max
We must at some point come to realize WE THE PEOPLE are responsible for the mess America is in! We voted them into power!
Chasalz
Then you were part of the problem. You let unqualified candidate get elected
vic g pomarico
YEAH LIKE CARTER OBAMA & BIDEN~~~the problem with people like you is that you is that you vote FEELINGS & PARTY~~~not LEADERSHIP
SKIP MOORE
I DON’T UNDEER STAND YOU REASONING.
Livelaughlive
I don’t believe they got voted in. The corrupt system put them in. Xiden admitted to voter fraud on public TV. Not one Republican uttered a word against this travesty of justice.
Bill
As brilliant a statement as I’ve read regarding the disparity in wealth in this country. I paid my wage through college as a hospital male aide nights, weekends and summers beginning in high school. I started a $1.15 an hour! and one week I grossed $100.00. Do the math! My parents helped to the extent they could and when I quit school in my senior year of college to join the Army there was NO debt! Subsidizing college costs was not in the stars.
I am now retired from a VERY high paying career and could afford to send our grandkids to college at no cost to them IF we elected to. We elected not pay the bill to in order to teach them economics for which they deserve an ‘A’ since their futures are guaranteed by their efforts, both scholastic and vocational. My parents knew what we needed to learn to be successful like them. Our kids will follow in our footsteps!
Ckncerned
Maybe not!
Dawn
Not me. I do my homework.
Dawn
Didn’t vote? Or did not vote in the crooks?
SKIP MOORE
I’VE BEEN WRITING THAT MESSAGE FOR YEARS, NO ONE REPLIES WITH ANY SENSE OF MEA CULPA. WHAT I GET IS, NOT MY FAULT THAT THE ELECTORATE IS SO STUPID OR SO IGNORANT.
Pony
I would love to know how people feel about the free “covid” $ that practically EVERYONE got and then decided they don’t have to ever go back to work….
Nancy
COVID checks did not discriminate like student debt relief. COVID checks were a tax refund to all taxpayer’s. I don’t know of anyone who didn’t have to go back to work after receiving a measley $1500 check.
Dieter
It seems to me, that the folks, that went to college, and made something of themselfes, are paying or have paid off their loans, as a responsible person would do!!! Now, if some of these folks are having legitamet, such as health problems , with making thier payments, loan forgiveness should be considered on a one on one basis.
To forgive colleage loans on a blanket basis, is irresponsible, to say the least! There should be no free luchnches, they are the ones that took on the reponsiblilty to pay up!!
Nancy
I put myself thru and paid off my debt when I graduated, making $3 an hour. My nephew, who just graduated, is making over $30 an hour. I’ve never made close to that my entire life!
Rodriguez
Nice English.
Tonya
I paid off my student loans and don’t believe that the others should be forgiven! I believe if you did it you own it
Jan Aguirre
Love, love , love this!
Lute
More Socialism Biden buying votes. Taxpayers should file class action suit against Biden administration. This is illegal
Nancy
Yes. Biden could be impeached for this, as he is not in charge of the US coffers. Even Pelosi was pissed when Biden announced his plan for student loan forgiveness.
Herb
Hmm, always the concern, however accurate, that loan forgiveness is intended to attract votes from those benefitting. Ooookay, probably so, but could also so repulse those who did pay off their loans that their numbers overwhelm the free loaders. Hope so, hope so.
agnes
I know someone with 3 collage degree waiting tables as a (full time job)…….. Do I need to pay for all that collage, and now give a great tip to top that, it in the restaurant ??? Let me say she has also bankrupted 2 times because of alcoholism……..
Jim
Listened a second time . . . nowhere did I hear “veganism” mentioned. Methinks your “plant based” advice was based on something missing from the conversation. . . .
Edi V.
Just end it at “… that has always lived off taxpayer money“. Perfect
College was so ridiculous when I graduated High School, I enlisted in the Navy Nuclear Power Program.
2 years of school – mine was Electronics Technician for one year, then a year of Nuclear Power School.
Served 8 years and had a GI Bill – revoked – when I got out.
When I enlisted a veteran supposedly had 10 years to use the GI Bill. Congress suspended payments on the Vietnam Era GI Bill 12/31/89.
Lesson – there may be a GI Bill when you enlist. It may not be there when you get out.
So “THE GI BILL” is a definite maybe for veterans. In my case – it was nada.
Work hard, pay your bills and we will get along fine.
The Germans don’t give free college for knuckleheaded self awareness studies. They go to engineers.
My sentiments exactly!!
Just wondering where this “free” tree is that keeps growing all this “free” stuff? Do you have to fertilize this tree, and if so is the fertilizer free? The labor of the person that will fertilize the tree? The plumber that installed the water lines to bring water to the “free” tree?
I love when idiots throw around that “free” terminology! Just because YOU don’t pay for it doesn’t mean it’s “free”!
We have “free education” paid for by taxpayers from Kindergarten through 12th grade. After that any further career choices are up to you! Which means YOU PAY!
because america wastes most of the tax money and colleges are now a huge money making monster that uses your parents net worth as what you will pay and donate to the school.
Probably because in Germany a years worth of college doesn’t cost $70,000 per.
Nothing in life is free. Who pays? The rich? Define rich.
It’s a matter of preference. I prefer a country where higher education, like health care, is free; that is, paid for through taxation that is progressive, ensuring that those who are better off financially pay a higher share for the common good. In Scotland, for example, this has meant that rich and poor have access to free education at universities, technical colleges, teacher colleges and police colleges. Before free higher education was introduced, many working class people could not afford to go to university. Likewise, before healthcare was free, people died due to lack of access, just as they do to this day in the United States. To my mind, it’s difficult to ethically defend a system where access to education and healthcare is based upon one’s ability to pay. That might be ethically defensible if there were a level playing field, but that is never possible in reality.
Perhaps you need to move to one of those failing liberal bastions of socialism like Cuba or Venezuela where everything is free and nothing is available or of importance.
Or move to one of the Scandinavian nations – democratic socialist countries. But, I’m fine living here. I might feel differently if I were struggling to make a living.
You don’t seem to understand that the GI bill was introduced to those who served their time in the military defending this country and other countries as well.
The GI bill is still here you just have to earn it by serving in United States military.
There ya go cupcake
but please don’t waste it on k9 gender studies…. as a matter of fact, Stay away from anything with Gender in the name
You sir are a socialist…
You, of course, are referring to corporate welfare. Please learn the definitions of communism, fascism and socialism, which includes various types, such as Democratic socialism, which is what we’ve been since FDR and the New Deal. Damn!!
Also why the US is $30trillion in debt!
$33 trillion, and $8 trillion just in the last two years (and counting….rapidly)! Thanks to biden and his handlers. Much of it was used up buying votes for cash, and facilitating the worsening of the massive CRISIS at our southern border, both of which are impeachable and convictable. Republicans, you’ve got to start the ball rolling! Get to it!
$33.5 Trillion and counting!
No such thing as free!
Yes. Guilty as charged.
Hard looking in the mirror if it’s your face looking back at that frown
And yet HOW many people are rushing the borders of Scotland??????
You are able and welcome to move to Scotland
I paid my education off myself, and my kids as well. I WILL NOT pay for someone else’s education unless I PICK THE Classes, and there WILL BE NO K9 Gender Studies, that I’ll guarantee.
After agreeing to the extreme university prices with far left professors teaching radical ideas, you want to change the rules and dump the cost on someone who never agreed to the stupidity.
I think the cost of “higher education” plus the “benefits” of a college degree are ridiculous. I went to a local community college in the 1960s where tuition was $50 a semester plus lab fees and books and a parking permit. I commuted to school and lived at home with my parents, worked in the family business and did my chores without complaint. No student loans. I did have a scholarship that paid my tuition. I was studying to become a school teacher which was one of only 3 career choices for women at the time (other were nursing or secretarial/bookkeeping). They were really pushing for teachers at the time which meant the career path was full of aspiring teachers when I graduated after 4 years.
I married and had a family but had to reenter the work force in the 1970s. There was a surplus of teachers and few positions opening up. God opened up a new career path for me in social work, Children’s Protective Services. No, I was NOT one of those child snatchers. I worked with parents to keep their families intact. During the course of following that path, the State of Texas made a stipend plan available to its employees and I was able to go into a Master’s Degree plan for Social Work. No student loans. I agreed to work for the state for a specified period of time and signed a contract and I worked full-time and went to classes on the weekends, spending one semester on campus as a full-time student.
I retired from Social Work in 2011 after working with people from the cradle to the grave. I worked for the State, for hospitals in discharge planning and social work, for Hospice and Home Health, and as a mental health therapist in nursing homes and eventually in a locked unit for adolescents.
College was NOT playtime for me. I was not in a sorority and neither were my friends. I lived life much as I had as a high school student. Yes, there were football games to go to and social events, even a political rally or two but for I was there to prepare for teaching junior high/middle school and high school subjects, English and history. Little did I know that most history teachers were actually in the coaching profession and taught history as a side line and their wives (former cheerleaders) did the same with the English classes. Rude awakening.
Now the colleges have multi-million dollar athletic complexes and stadiums. The coaches are millionaires and make money on the side endorsing products (shoes, vitamins, sporting equipment, vehicles, etc.). Is it any wonder the colleges are turning out a “me” centered group of child-adults who majored in the easy “Mickey Mouse” courses of study that amount to a big nothing at all?
Germany’s educational system is not like ours. Nor is its government. Look up how their systen is run and the tests the children must take to advance in their educational sytem. Those tests detremine which kids go to vocational schools or which go to college. We have local public education (i.e., like the Philadelphia or Waco, TX Boards of Education). Each US city and county run their own public schools and receive their funding from local taxes, with possibly some funds provided by the state and from grants from the federal government. I live in Fairfax County which has a high tax base and which runs a very good school system. Trying to compare Germany education syten to ours is like comparing apples to lug nuts – ther is no comparison.
Free for first year, then they start weeding them out. Then if they want to continue, they pay themselves.
Relax boys and girls…. it’s not happening….but they did trick all those brilliant college students into voting for them!
Political prostitution is alive and well in Washington, DC.
Wait till Fetterneck votes in the Senate
Yea, all those College kids that thought they were so damn smart already, voted for the Idiot, and will never see their College education reimbursed. Live and learn🤬
It’s only free if you go into the career they choose for you.
The reason college has become “unaffordable” is because the government encourages student loans and guarantees payment if they default. As a result, our institutions of higher learning have an incentive to continually increase the cost.
Remove all student loans from any government guarantees and you will see the number of loans decrease. and the cost will start reducing to be competitive relative to benefits the students will have in relationship to their cost.
EDUCATION WHICH IS HIGHLY DESIRED WILL BE WORTH THE COST. IF IT IS FREE WHY MAKE AN EFFORT? YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. IN MONEY AND EFFORT.
We already have “free education” offered from preschool through High School every where without expecting a demonstration of success in preparation for College already for those students willing to attend regularly and participate in the process. Is there any empirical data that suggests those unwilling to do so to this point are going to change at “Graduation” How is “free” working out for taxpayers now?
The other reason is the high salaries of these so called “professors” who average $300,000. a year sometimes for part time work. That’s not counting their lifetime insurance and retirement benefits! THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS PAY TO HAVE OUR KIDS INDOCTRINATED WITH LIBERAL HOOEY!
Hang on, “average $300,000 a year”? I don’t know where you get your information, but since the 1970’s colleges and universities mostly hire teachers as adjunct professors. This let’s the schools off the hook for “perks” such as a position guaranteed for even the next quarter or semester. If also means no retirement benefits, and many often need to work at 2 different schools just to make ends meet. If you are made an assistant professor then you may be on a career track to eventually become a full professor, but unless you author something like a popular textbook or other writings that give you notoriety, you teach because you really think it is the best thing you can do for yourself and the country. I know one professor near retirement at a high end (expensive) private college in Southern California who makes $150,000, but he is head of his department, written a lot, and has been teaching for 30+ years. I believe the upper administrators are the ones to pull down the big bucks, and if all they are learning is “LIBERAL HOOEY” then where is it written you have to pay for such schooling? Maybe we should have sent and paid for our kids to go to Trump University?
if you cant find a job…. teach..
This student loan program was nothing but a vote getting scheme by Demorats to get the college students vote with other people’s money. The courts may throw it out as unconstitutional. Just shows how corrupt our system is. This is just miniscule part of the corruption. It will be over when we are so far in debt that no one will want to hold US dollars as they will be near worthless. Think Rome, Venezuela, Argentina, Germany and others. Our politicians are sick for power at all costs to the taxpayer. It’s time for fiscal responsibility and honest politicians. Probably not possible.
fjb and the demorats
DamnOcraps
funny…. but still communism… NO ONE has a right to have their debts paid for by public funds; ANYONE has a right to attempt to solicit donations if they have fallen on hard times; but being a fool and buying what you cannot afford is the price of stupidity… and only other stupid, immoral, irresponsible people would be suited to help such out. People can donate toward causes they think are worthy. ZERO public funds are to go toward ANYTHING that is charitable, no matter how good a cause; not even disaster relief.
This is exactly how I view this entire question. And, this view is from an over 80 year person who has seen plenty of life. I am also sure that this will never come to be! Surprised it has gotten this far, but then I know this country seems to be changing and not for the better either!
ANYONE BUT TRUMP!!!
IT IS AMUSING TO HEAR THE OUTSTANDING JOB THE DEMOCRATS AND THE MSM DID ON OUR IMPRESSION OF TRUMP’S SUCCESS AS A PRESIDENT, AS THE EFFECT OF THE CONSTANT BRAIN WASHING RECEDES, PERHAPS OVER 50 OR SO YEARS, HISTORY WILL RECOGNIZE WHAT HE ACCOMPLISHED INCLUDING MASSIVE PEACE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN ISRAEL AND SEVERAL ARAB STATES, INSISTING ON NATO COUNTRIES TO PAY UP THEIR SHARE OF COSTS, OF ENGAGING THE CHINESE AND KOREAN GOVERNMENTS TO BEGIN RELATIONSHIPS ( MAYBE THEY HELP, MAYBE NOT), THE PULLING OUT OF THE DISASTROUS NUCLEAR PACT WITH IRAN WHERE THEY GAVE US NOTHING AND WE AGREED TO NOT INSPECT. WHAT HAS OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT ACCOMPLISHED THAT WILL BE RECOGNIZED AS IMPORTANT BY HISTORY. PRESIDENT TRUMP GREW UP A GAMBLER IN THE REAL WORLD. WORLD LEADERSHIP IS GAMBLING. BETTER TO HAVE PRESIDENT WHO HAS THE NERVE TO GAMBLE. THE COUNTRY GAMBLED WITH ELECTING JOE BIDEN. VENTURE A GUESS HOW THAT ELECTION WERE REDONE NOW.
never made a loan without having some type of collateral or co pay info, colleges need to take some responsibility for this mess, sad this administration can not understand basic lending practices
Make the universities refund the loans if they give a student a worthless degree and they haven’t earned X amount after 10 years leaving school. Do that and universities would completely shut down their Women’s Studies programs, “Gender Studies” and all the other worthless social degree programs.
Better to have the lending institutions determine the interest rates charged based on the degree that is being sought. Then remove all government subsidies and guarantees, make the individual responsible for payment, just they would be if they bought a car or anything else on credit.
What these spoiled brat snowflakes either 1) haven’t been told or, 2) don’t understand, the ‘forgiven loan’ is going to show up on their tax return as earned income. Just wait till they have to pay taxes on that debt. The tiny little leftist heads will be exploding everywhere…this is exactly why this information is not coming out before the mid-terms.
More rational thought from the middle of the country.
Still wondering how the president got elected by sitting in his basement
Me Too….Good Grief….Will check with the “cemeteries” on how they “voted”!!!!:(
Still wondering how our president got elected by sitting in his basement
I am from Delaware, we watched Biden do nothing for years. I did not vote for him. We did not realize that he would go off the rails this bad. Had a discussion with a guy yesterday, he has not idea what is going on “what laptop”? When I said “10% for the big guy” blank stare. Actually had a woman tell me with a straight face “we don’t have a border problem. We are screwed, period.
It is sad and unfortunate that Pelosi’s husband got attacked. I bet he will go to jail yet a guy that ran over someone and killed him got out on bail and all others in California walk free. Our country has become so ridiculous.
I remember when Joe Biden was called for plagiarizing and had to drop out of his first attempt to run for President. Then there was the time he was caught lying about his education and how smart he was. He claimed to graduate at the top of his class with 3 degrees. He actually barely graduated with one. He was at the bottom of the ranks! I don’t guess you have to be smart to be a crook or to be a crooked politician. Must be demon possessed??
how smart he was????? Biden failed 3rd and 7th grades, had to take the BAR exam three times to pass. And today, he remains the worst President ever to have the title!
Jill was the Brandon family babysitter when she was young… she knows just what she got into, and probably has a tidy bundle hidden for when the old codger kicks off.
She was married and she and her husband were volunteers in the Biden campaign. They were young newly weds hence she babysat Joe’s kids. When his wife and baby daughter were killed in a car wreck, she was ready to step in as wife #2. We can see what a magnificent job Jill and Joe did in their raising!
A retired high school shop teacher who spent over 200K paying off college loans putting 4 kids thru college. Where do I apply to get my money back ?
Thank you for biting the bullet and paying off your loans. You are to be commended. Couldn’t have been easy.
Oh! The horrible shock when you realize your Poly Sci degree is worthless, unless of course, you work on MSNBC.
We must at some point come to realize WE THE PEOPLE are responsible for the mess America is in! We voted them into power!
Then you were part of the problem. You let unqualified candidate get elected
YEAH LIKE CARTER OBAMA & BIDEN~~~the problem with people like you is that you is that you vote FEELINGS & PARTY~~~not LEADERSHIP
I DON’T UNDEER STAND YOU REASONING.
I don’t believe they got voted in. The corrupt system put them in. Xiden admitted to voter fraud on public TV. Not one Republican uttered a word against this travesty of justice.
As brilliant a statement as I’ve read regarding the disparity in wealth in this country. I paid my wage through college as a hospital male aide nights, weekends and summers beginning in high school. I started a $1.15 an hour! and one week I grossed $100.00. Do the math! My parents helped to the extent they could and when I quit school in my senior year of college to join the Army there was NO debt! Subsidizing college costs was not in the stars.
I am now retired from a VERY high paying career and could afford to send our grandkids to college at no cost to them IF we elected to. We elected not pay the bill to in order to teach them economics for which they deserve an ‘A’ since their futures are guaranteed by their efforts, both scholastic and vocational. My parents knew what we needed to learn to be successful like them. Our kids will follow in our footsteps!
Maybe not!
Not me. I do my homework.
Didn’t vote? Or did not vote in the crooks?
I’VE BEEN WRITING THAT MESSAGE FOR YEARS, NO ONE REPLIES WITH ANY SENSE OF MEA CULPA. WHAT I GET IS, NOT MY FAULT THAT THE ELECTORATE IS SO STUPID OR SO IGNORANT.
I would love to know how people feel about the free “covid” $ that practically EVERYONE got and then decided they don’t have to ever go back to work….
COVID checks did not discriminate like student debt relief. COVID checks were a tax refund to all taxpayer’s. I don’t know of anyone who didn’t have to go back to work after receiving a measley $1500 check.
It seems to me, that the folks, that went to college, and made something of themselfes, are paying or have paid off their loans, as a responsible person would do!!! Now, if some of these folks are having legitamet, such as health problems , with making thier payments, loan forgiveness should be considered on a one on one basis.
To forgive colleage loans on a blanket basis, is irresponsible, to say the least! There should be no free luchnches, they are the ones that took on the reponsiblilty to pay up!!
I put myself thru and paid off my debt when I graduated, making $3 an hour. My nephew, who just graduated, is making over $30 an hour. I’ve never made close to that my entire life!
Nice English.
I paid off my student loans and don’t believe that the others should be forgiven! I believe if you did it you own it
Love, love , love this!
More Socialism Biden buying votes. Taxpayers should file class action suit against Biden administration. This is illegal
Yes. Biden could be impeached for this, as he is not in charge of the US coffers. Even Pelosi was pissed when Biden announced his plan for student loan forgiveness.
Hmm, always the concern, however accurate, that loan forgiveness is intended to attract votes from those benefitting. Ooookay, probably so, but could also so repulse those who did pay off their loans that their numbers overwhelm the free loaders. Hope so, hope so.
I know someone with 3 collage degree waiting tables as a (full time job)…….. Do I need to pay for all that collage, and now give a great tip to top that, it in the restaurant ??? Let me say she has also bankrupted 2 times because of alcoholism……..
Listened a second time . . . nowhere did I hear “veganism” mentioned. Methinks your “plant based” advice was based on something missing from the conversation. . . .
Just end it at “… that has always lived off taxpayer money“. Perfect