Ultra-violet testing on Maricopa ballots…

Posted by Kane on May 2, 2021 12:48 am

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Jovan Pulitzer can identify fraudulent ballots based on the paper used, creases, the ink used, and other characteristics. Election workers tonight are scanning ballots individually in ultra-violet light.

 

If the absentee ballot does not include a crease, we know it’s fraudulent.

 

 


 

 

Pulitzer described the process in December

 

 

 

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Susanne
Susanne

I had hoped that Trump could infuse the GOP with some spine,but the gutless RNC was too busy backing
RINOS!It’s clear to me that the RNC was just as afraid of Trump as the DNC was!We had Republicans helping the Left attack the POTUS WE ELECTED‼️😠After 56
yrs of voting Red,I’m a PATRIOT and am backing MY
COUNTRY,NOT A PARTY‼️Neither Party thinks,
“America First!”They think,”Party First”‼️WE GAVE YOU A GREAT CANDIDATE,but you squandered him and scammed us!It would be stupid to trust either Party
again‼️I’ll vote for Trump!As for the Party?”You Can Go To Hell and I Will Go To Texas‼️”

Johnny hale
Johnny hale

Amen!! My sentiments exactly!!

jack
jack

unfortunately nothing will be done they have everybody in their back pocket! I’m more worried about what happens when they figure out another sleazy way to steal the 2022 election. Maybe the Republicans can send in a deep state spy to see what they are working on! I’m sure scumorats already have a plan.

Chris
Chris

They are using this process in the Maricopa County audit.

justforlaughs
justforlaughs

i think they Already have TONS of solid “Evidence”
that State AND Federal Laws were Broken and in MANY States
even without this “dog and pony show “Audit”.
but they own the “State legislator’s” And “the courts”
so “who you gonna call” to Enforce The Law , and to make Arrest?
“Ghost buster’s?”
it’s an honest question.

jack
jack

They will call it racist if the evidence shows they cheated!

Linda Gouveia
Linda Gouveia

Good Thats why The Left Tried To Stop This Audit.

Sick of it all
Sick of it all

Locked and loaded. They will not go peacefully into the night. Stay armed, train right, and carry daily.

PedroS
PedroS

Folks, let’s be real here. Even if they find a ton of fraud nothing will happen…..WE ARE DEALING WITH REPUBLICANS, SPINELESS AMOEBA.

Ronaldo
Ronaldo

Yes let’s be real here. I’m neither Republican or Democrat and there were to many instances of election tampering that occurred last time around. No Biden won’t be overturned but yes, where it is proven the laws will be adjusted so it won’t happen again. Take your liberal socialism elsewhere.

Chris
Chris

Never say never.

TeeLo
TeeLo

If they cant get the courts to hear the evidence we 74 million voters are going to have to do CITIZENS ARRESTS and march them in to SCOTUS!

I double dog dare SCOTUS to treat 74 million Anerican voters the way they treated our president!

cyber_rigger
cyber_rigger

There is also non-radioactive isotope ratio to see that the paper was made with a different water source.

Dianna Hund
Dianna Hund

Remember Schumer saying on the commercial over and over???
“We TAKE GEORGIA and we TAKE them ALL!” UH….Schumer? Swallow those words

CLaudia Basola
CLaudia Basola

Hey VERIFIED TRUTH…yes they can add creases…but then all they have to do is check the paper it is on. Then so on and so forth! Why aren’t we all out protesting? Only Lib extremists can do that?

CLaudia Basola
CLaudia Basola

This was a wonderful hopeful piece of information!
I remember when we were all talking about water marks after this failed election. This piece shows ‘water marks’ on steroids! God Speed!

Gary
Gary

Notice they are also photographing each ballot with a document camera.

Michael
Michael

Inspired by my previous comments and people who commented on them: what if effective leadership (MAGA, radio hosts, news websites, and so on) who has a big base of listeners organized us to all donate every month to project veritas james O’Keefe. What if he had a billion extra dollars a year and a team of let’s say 50+ lawyers paid for backing his plays? Imagine what he could accomplish. Yes I know I can support his work, but what if each and every one of us got people like Steve Bannon, Alex Jones, citizen free press, and others to organize this and 50,000,000 MAGA supports came together consolidating power in this way to drain the swamp? Imagine what we could accomplish. It doesn’t have to be project veritas but look at the incredible job he does. What if that was magnified 1000 fold?

Michael
Michael

My point is to open up a conversation about how we can consolidate our resources together on specific itemized actions. Strength in numbers. Ten people choose to boycott Walmart in a small city surrounding Dallas, Walmart doesn’t care. If 50,000,000 people decided to boycott Walmart together cause they were inspired by whoever, how could Walmart not care about that quarterly report (just a randomly drawn example). And yes what you said is valid too.
Not that my example was the best, but I’m just saying if we take action together on a meaningful itemized list we could accomplish a lot. We need leadership to organize us for that. This site is a leader. I have zero standing in terms of audience, community, influence, etc. I cannot do this, but other people can help me reach out to those who can and if you run this site then you are one of the people who actually can make a difference.
I don’t want to be an armchair critic and I’m tired of just being informed. The right has talked their side to the near death of constitutional values while those against the constitution have been busy actually taking action to end the constitutions. I want us to make meaningful action together. I need help. We need help. That’s all.

Michael
Michael

On a battle field the soldiers aren’t ordered to make scattered, random attempts to win the battle. They are given specific instructions which you can imagine. Us all going at this individually like blindfolded soldiers playing pin the tail on the donkey in a ww2 like scenario (analogy) is just a bad strategy. A more effective strategy is the leadership giving specific direction and formation. And making a plan to hit them where it counts. My hope is people in leadership positions would talk with others in leadership positions. With their combined audiences if they all sang the same tune we could accomplish a lot. I think it’s wonderful people do that in these comments. My point is that the impact would be a lot greater if the leadership organized us to take action effectively. Sounds crazy. But we need a crazy solution if we hope to make a dent in draining the swamp. I know they are working tirelessly and believe me I’m the last person to knock their effort. I just mean they need to make better use of US. Many people like me want to do something but aren’t sure where our effort will make a difference.
Telling me to go hit the Pacific Ocean as if my fist will make a big impact is very different than if you told 100,000 people to make a formation(I know kind of stupid illogical analogy) to cannon ball into the pacific. I just think it’s about strength in numbers in very sharply tuned directions.

Leilani Q.C. Raney
Leilani Q.C. Raney

You might want to proposition your idea to the “Tea Party Patriots Action, Inc.,” Jenny Beth Martin, jenny.beth@teapartypatriots.org?

Michael
Michael

And I think if leadership did really make the effort to gather like that, the combined audience would be so huge. Trump alone has, what, well over 50 mill? And I’m not knocking what he’s doing, overall all things considered I’m so thankful for him. I just think that the potential is so much greater for us to make change if only we were organized to do so.

TeeLo
TeeLo

Organizers! If we’d had organizers to organize us to help Trump this would not have happened. Not pointing fingers, though I’d like to. I’m. red faced with Shame at 99% of people we’ve elected. There’s not many in federal government we can count on. Thank God some state legislators are working to correct their mistakes.

Johnny hale
Johnny hale

You’re 100% correct, no matter what we as citizens do that’s right& positive, as long as that dinasaur Congress of Republican& democrat con artist compromised crooks remain in office, nothing will ever change, the corruption will not only continue but probably get even worse, we have got to have a HOUSE CLEANING of CONGRESS !!!!!!

Michael
Michael

I’m just worried for my kids for all of our future. I just recognize how large the swamp is and how they aren’t being met with effective opposition. I’m worried.

TeeLo
TeeLo

I know. I am so scared for my kids. I’ve never seen anything like these communists. WW11 was across the ocean. Americans only heard by radio – did not see and live thru the horrors. If I can do ANYTHING to help stop this I will.

TeeLo
TeeLo

Thank God, somebody wants go DO SOMETHING! I’m for starting a fund to hire the best conservative constitutional legal team available to sue Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and every member of the three branches of this wannabe government and their nongovernment cohorts all the way to SCOTUS.
I want to see the look on the Supremes faces at millions of Americans in front of them demanding justice – justice for a destroyed election that THEY deprived American.voters of – thereby handing a Communist party the keys to Americas government.

Well now I’m stepping down off my soap box and whatever y’all decide to do, I’m in!

Michael
Michael

If you like the judicial watch, then why don’t you run articles calling for us to help them and why they are a good organization? I just think we need to get action centered as a large community in a very focused way. An organized way.

Duckandcover
Duckandcover

Kane, Watch does force issues into court but only to be met with setback after setback. Not a comment on Watch, which is an excellent organization, but it is a very sad commentary on our “go along to get along” judicial system which is steeped in political partisanship, not justice.

Michael
Michael

I think only by strength in numbers in a unified effort can we ever hope to change things like that. Organized leadership.

Enufodis Enufodat
Enufodis Enufodat

Push agressively for the Convention of the States.

TeeLo
TeeLo

I dont know much about that. It’s maybe the right thing to do. It will take months to do. Meanwhile Biden is destroying the country and our lives. We need to organize, do something useful now.

TeeLo
TeeLo

I’m for anything that we can do to help. Citizens in numbers will put kick ass force behind it

Michael
Michael

My position in this is I do like y’all’s effort too. I think the effort needs to be lead on by a unified leadership of conservatives so that millions of people hear about it and can contribute. I’m not meaning to be critical. I admire the work they’ve done, seriously. I like this site a lot too. My point is if we hope to succeed we need to kick it up not just a notch but many notches.

Anonymous 1
Anonymous 1

The system is ripe for fraud BY DESIGN. Many ways exist today that could avoid the fraud. The option exists for tomes when it’s wanted.

The laws and execution of rules and punishment must be sufficient to create fear sufficient to deter the crime. Everyone in this car knows no punishment is likely. SCOTUS would not even hear any facts from any case.

States fix this, or we have a very dark decade of war.

TeeLo
TeeLo

I agree with you that we have to rely on state legislators. It is, after all their balliwac according to the constitution.
But the Supremes are the top court of the land. We need them doing their job. They cannot be allowed to refuse to hear our cases. There should be something in the constitution to remedy that.

Those amongst us who are a whiz at reading and understanding the constitution, please look for what we can do about the Supremes. And anyone with suggestions, please state them.

VerifiedTruth
VerifiedTruth

Anybody pointed out that “creases” could have been added after the fact, in the past 3 months while the ballots sat in a warehouse?

Anonymous 1
Anonymous 1

Can’t fix the machine made oval marks. Too perfect, too time consuming to create and apply millions of unique bubble fills.

The strategy was cheat, refuse access to evidence, run out clock, control SCOTUS and 5 counties’ officials.

TeeLo
TeeLo

Smart but the best of CROOKS make mistakes. Their plan has holes in it. We have to find snd exploit them.

Cocke County,TN
Cocke County,TN

We used to be capable of counting paper ballots & knowing who our LEGITIMATE President was on election night.Brainless zombies trust technology & makes everything faster.Now it takes days/weeks & months to let ballots “cure”.Ain’t technology great!

Humans are f’ng stupid.

Mrs. Sunshine
Mrs. Sunshine

Democrats are traitorous criminals. RINOs are traitorous criminals.

Conservatives / patriots are victims of UniParty crimes and late getting to the fight with the wrong weapons.

TeeLo
TeeLo

Even the non– communist Republicsns sat back and did nothing to help Trump..

Aunt Lea
Aunt Lea

…and LAZY!

TeeLo
TeeLo

State legislators let it all slip through their fingers. I’ll bet at least half of them didn’t even know this was their job. The mail in ballots should have never been started. There’s 90 ways to cheat with them. And those machines! I hate the dern things. Give me a plain simple paper ballots and I’m happy

Patriot
Patriot

Traitors in Jail , please.

Deep Thought 42
Deep Thought 42

This ‘theory’ of what will be found is pure speculation. We will have to wait for results to be made public. I would hope that if a reasonable amount of improper ballots were discovered, that would be made public when discovered, and not held in secret till the end.

Space Lord Mother Mother
Space Lord Mother Mother

But, bought judges do NOT want to determine if there was fraud!

JBrickley
JBrickley

Pulitzer is right, you can’t look at the Dominion code because that evidence has been destroyed. The voting machines and scanners had their firmware (software code stored on a flash chip) erased and re-written with legit code. Whatever possible remote hacking that may or may not have occurred is not something they can forensically preserve and prove fraud. It’s all 1’s and 0’s that do not physically exist.

But looking at the physical ballots and the original scans and you will likely detect massive fraud from fake ballots but also when the physical count of ballots do not match the digital scan numbers. There should be one scan per physical ballot. However we are only looking at tens of thousands of votes where the election was won or lost. If they find 200,000+ fraudulent votes, well where is that going to leave things? It’s possible the cheater might have won but it’s highly unlikely.

So let’s say this Arizona audit reveals massive fraud and they find the losers actually won. What’s going to happen? Well the state can and likely will recall those representatives and senators and replace them with the actual winners. Other states are going to be pressured to conduct their own audits. Laws are going to be changed. Will they undo the Presidency? No. It is too late to fix the Presidency. But come hell or high water, we must ensure the next vote in 2022 and 2024 is trustworthy. We must put a stop to massive mail-in ballot voting. Many states are now going to allow full on mail-in balloting. In order to ever trust that system again, we must have laws and physical controls on those ballots. There must also be a very clean and very up-to-date voter registry. Too many of these voter registries still have deceased individuals names and addresses on file. Not to mention all those people who left the state. When they decided to mail everyone a ballot they used these lists that are nowhere near accurate. Ballots went to wrong addresses, others were caught by the post office and redirected to the new address even if that was out of state. Ballots were mailed to empty lots, commercial properties and post office boxes (illegal in most states as your voting address). That’s absolutely insane. The Democrats fight corrections to these flaws because they have been committing voter fraud using these flaws for decades. It’s just 2020 when the level of fraud skyrocketed to the moon.

The methods being used in the Arizona audit are perfectly legit and scientifically sound but also remarkably simple and clear so anyone can understand the process. They are being very transparent about their process. The way the Democrats have fought this every step of the way tooth and nail is very telling. What the heck are they hiding? Why would an audit make them scream out in fury? What’s wrong in proving the results are legit? What do they fear? I don’t even need to say why, you know why…

What if every state implements such a detailed audit process? What if that audit process was built-in to the process on election night? What if the same audit process was applied immediately after the election results were counted? I have no problem with any of that. In fact, I would applaud it. Our election system is more important than money but we have far stricter standards on the financial industry and no amount of New Math, Common Core, nor Ethno-Mathematics will alter the fact that 2+2=4 or that the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the areas of the squares of the other two sides of any and all right triangles.

Jovan’s science is looking for creases made by folding and pressing repeatedly through rollers and mail sorting machines. He will be able to tell if a crease was made once or multiple times. A legit ballot will have been folded repeatedly by a voter but also pressed by machines and rollers multiple times. He will also be able to tell if the circles were filled in by a human or by a machine and or were printed. The ballots themselves are printed on printing presses and there are forensic markers that can identify the printer specifically that cannot be seen with the human eye. Most all inkjet and laser printers and copiers also leave markers that the FBI can identify. Same with printing money. They can measure how much pressure was applied when filling in the circles and they can tell if a human made the swirls or if a precise machine did so, etc. Most ballots have several security measures such as a watermark and barcode, etc. The barcodes should be unique and there should never be a duplicate ballot. The type of paper can also be analyzed as all the official ballots coming from the same printing companies would be using the exact same paper and there should be no variations in the paper. Ballots that were “fixed”, re-created should have been done by hand and observed by at least 3 people and verified correct and perhaps initialed by each person before it was fed through a scanner. The margin between win and lose is so tight that only the physical ballot audit is necessary to prove or disprove fraud. Digital electronic fraud is far harder to prove because the machine security is very poor and these devices were designed to connect to the Internet and that should not be the case. Dominion is a company who is the result of many mergers and acquisitions of other voter technology companies such as Diebold among others. Their technology is an absolute joke, the security measures are literally nonexistent. Computer professionals have been screaming about digital vote technology for over a decade. It’s a farce.Technology doesn’t make it more secure it makes it less secure.

Tlc23
Tlc23

Well said. Although I completely disagree with you saying it’s too late to put Trump in office when fraud is proven. If they put in other representatives they will also put in rightful lawful President without a doubt.

TeeLo
TeeLo

THANK YOU! I was beginning to think that I was loonier than slow Joe.

We Americans don’t let criminals – thiefs and what have yous – run our government.

If what’s left of our REAL government will do nothing to put a stop to this lawless farce, we 74 million American voters will have to.

When push comes to shove it’s our job TO PROTECT AND DEFEND OUR COUNTRY!

Liketotalk
Liketotalk

Thank you JB –
Can they get fingerprints to catch illegal immigrants voting?
Is it only the Republican led county election offices who insist on watermark paper for their county’s ballots?

Thanks AZ, for the tedious work, no matter the outcome.
Doesn’t it seem logical that more than 2% needs audited when the vote is close and leftists are paying for satellite elections offices in PA ?

Back of Beyond Gary
Back of Beyond Gary

Most illegal immigrants do not have fingerprints on file.

Strayhorse
Strayhorse

Hillary Clinton, as far back at Slick Willy’s willy was dippin young intern CIA plants, Hillary was using “misplaced in her closet” 950 FBI files on American citizens to plan her Communist China compromising of the United States Supreme Court, Congress and Executive Branches. HILLARY is the key, OBAMA is the Manchurian Candidate and the JOE BIDEN family are the Collectors and Couriers! ARREST ALL THESE TRAITORS, and disqualify the 2020 Presidential Election because Communist China used Hillary, Obama, Biden and the Big Tech (Facebook, Twitter, Google) to commit treason and interfere in the election of ALL SATATES!

TeeLo
TeeLo

You are probably exactly right! But it has to be proven.

gruff
gruff

using electronics for voting is dumb— accepting electronics with secret coding is at the level of imbecile

Roadrash
Roadrash

There BETTER be a BUNCH of criminals arrested , charged , found guilty , and sent to PRISON .
Otherwise , our laws are irrelevant and the criminal Communists will have to be dealt with in …..other ways .

IMPedie
IMPedie

Just DOX the guilty

TeeLo
TeeLo

The minute those communist criminals get wind of the fact that we’ve got the proof and our REAL government is on their way to arrest them, they’re all going to get in their private jets and take off for their private islands that they’ve been buying and fixing up to live on. And we wont be able to touch them.

That won’t be okay with us but at least we’ll have our government and country back, and we’ll have the evidence for a new sooper dooper AG to work up into an unbeatable court case, just in case we sfe ever able to nab the bad hiys.

gruff
gruff

the national GOP let the criminals take charge – its too friggin late

Me
Me

Powerful insight!!

houdin1
houdin1

Georgia is next !!!

Dianna Hund
Dianna Hund

WE TAKE GEORGIA…we win it all! Shumer in his stupid Commercial!! Bet they need diaper right now

fake mexican
fake mexican

I believe they are looking for ultra fine creases and other such artifacts. That’s Jovan’s methodology. I may be wrong but that is what I gather from his interviews. Democrats will be seeing Jovan’s face in their nightmares for decades.

Major Kalhoun
Major Kalhoun

Revenge of the Nerds!

President Donald J. Trumper
President Donald J. Trumper

Strong work. Thanks, Mr. Pulitzer. You are a prize.

john mcculloch
john mcculloch

so are they going to let this guy do his thing and check paper creases and signatures or is hejust looking for a job?

Yerfej
Yerfej

Uh he’s already super rich he doesn’t need a job

john
john

with all the patents he holds, he has plenty of money.

Kimmy
Kimmy

So the rumor about watermarks were true!

ExMislTech
ExMislTech

With the ultraviolet feature too, lol. Guess we find out how good the fraud was, rachel madcow seems anxious.

PDQ
PDQ

Maybe the Left-Wing Media can claim that the audit firm is … RUSSIAN!!!

smith. jane smith.
smith. jane smith.

Shush!!!!

Don’t give ’em any ideas!!!!

Michael
Michael

This is what can happen when an effective attorney and hundreds of supporters get fired up and make real change TOGETHER. Incredible.
“ In this speech delivered at a Health-and-Freedom rally in Orange County, California, human-rights attorney Leigh Dundas lights the fire of liberty in the hearts of her audience as she shows the parallels between the rise of tyranny in Nazi Germany under the banner of nationalism and the rise of tyranny in America under the banner of public health. Her passion is contagious, and you will be drawn to her call to action.”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bn8JcIGE0b8

Whoever
Whoever

Thank you for sharing that video.
It is the Fourth Reich.
Her confidence is awe inspiring.

TrueTexas
TrueTexas

Leftists should be out there cheering this on confident that this audit will show no voter fraud proving the election was totally legit. Instead they doing everything they can to shut it down and discredit the results.

PDQ
PDQ

True that

smith. jane smith.
smith. jane smith.

….which based on behavior automatically declares their guilt!

nana
nana

I So Love the Way the Thieving Bastards Got Caught

John Colorado
John Colorado

They’re spending all their time trying to discredit this recount, because they already know the results.

Michael
Michael

I mean twitter has even gotten away with promoting child rape videos and pedophilia. Why haven’t we sued them to into oblivion? How can they get away with that and even remain a company? Imagine a small business doing that and what would happen with them? Even if Twitter gets a slap on the wrist that’s dumb, they should be GONE. Why don’t we pull our resources together? Not even if they are engaged in commerce about raping our children will we hold them accountable? WTF!!!!!What does it take for us to do something about this together!!!!!? We need effective leadership to call for organized effort by strength in numbers. I’m tired of this arm chair quarterback stuff. But acting like my individual fist could make a significant impact in the Pacific Ocean is like trying to make political change without strength in numbers. We need to do this together. I know I’ve written a lot in this comment section I’m just so SICK of this sh*^.

Michael
Michael

The best we get are great talkers on the radio and stuff telling us to stand up to corruption and spread the word. But how? They practically tell us to just spend our money with them so that their radio show (which is good) will remain afloat (which is good). Donate to them for the cause. Great. But we ALSO need better leadership than that. We need better action than that. It’s strength and numbers concentrating on something specific together that can make a huge difference. What if trump or the citizen free press said, “everybody send us 30 dollars and we are going to use this money to send 200 devoted lawyers to sue California to end their unconstitutional practices and bring those that broke the law to justice”. What if 25,000,000 people donated 30 dollars because they actually had an effective “battle plan” to take them down legally? Idk just SOMETHING. I don’t have an audience to do this or I’d do it myself. If these different institutions springing up like Steve Bannon’s war room, infowars, citizen free press, MAGA, and so on really want to help us and not just prop up their own existence (I get they need help and donations too), I don’t see why they wouldn’t organize meaningful solutions also. Telling us to make a scattered effort individually is just really crappy compared to what could be. We are awake, stop ONLY informing us and let’s DO something together. I’m potentially not smarter than them, so why won’t they? Why is it me talking about this and not them? I think they do have the capability.

Kathleen
Kathleen

I agree with u 100 %. Well said.

smith. jane smith.
smith. jane smith.

@Michael.

James O’Keefe of Project Veritas has filed a lawsuit for defamation against Twitter!!!!

Back him, because he has started the lawsuit you’re looking for.

You can at the very least get on the Project Veritas email list to follow his results….

Curt
Curt

Project Veritas has exposed way more government corruption than the Just-Us Dept, CIA & FBI combined, but those agencies just ignore it, like the MSM ignores it.

Michael
Michael

My main point is that yes I realize it’s happening but at a much too small level. Yes maybe veritas should head it and we should fund him. Imagine if he had one billion dollars extra every year. Imagine if he had a team of 50 lawyers backing him up as needed and wanted. I’m just saying we need to get serious about this. And as the audience we need to try to get those in leadership positions to organize this.

Michael
Michael

Wow that is a wonderful point Jane smith!!!! Thank you!!!!

Laura Bezden
Laura Bezden

I agree, we need to join resources. If 80 million people gave $50 a month it would be 4 billion a month. Think what good people could do with this money? But who to give it to that we could trust? Leigh Dundas?

Danielle
Danielle

I say if eighty million people showed up in D.C. to throw the corrupt traitors out, that would be the first step in regaining our country.

Michael
Michael

I think it needs to be done legally, I don’t think what you’re saying is their Achilles heel.

Michael
Michael

This discussion needs to be had by the leading voices of the movement to drain the swamp and I want us their audience to encourage them to have it. Leigh Dundas has my attention after seeing her work, but I don’t know! I’m really thankful for what she has done so far.

eyes
eyes

Watermarks? Is that from the busted water line?

PDQ
PDQ

Careful about urinals, when a single urinal overflows it can flood a building of any size

Mr_Mayhem
Mr_Mayhem

Seen in the daily thread…

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Jason The Argonaut
Jason The Argonaut

I hate to keep saying this but nothing is going to happen. Even if evidence is found, the media will bury it, shoot the messenger, politicians will ignore, and courts won’t touch it. You know that

Sheryl
Sheryl

Don’t be so pessimistic I really believe something good is going to happen.

Michael
Michael

Nothing is going to change until effective leadership organizes us by strength of numbers to continuously be taking the right steps to defeat the corruption such as stop giving corporations our money. Imagine if 50,000,000 Americans stopped spending money with them. Imagine that quarterly report meeting. We pay them to hurt us!!!!!! How stupid!!!!! Leadership needs to make 50,000,000 Americans not spending money with them a reality. We need to built alternatives so this is realistic for our daily lives and needs too. They think we will always spend our money with them so they can do whatever they want. And they don’t care if a few of us boycott them it needs to be all of us. And we need to pull our resources and SUE THE LIVING HELL out of them.

Michael
Michael

Didn’t the FBI/DOJ all but refuse a direct order from the PRESIDENT to investigate the fraud? That’s not supposed to be possible. Other than that potential example: We just need ACTUAL steps to hold them accountable and there really are steps we can take non violently. But if we imagine talk is going to cut it we are bigger fools than THEY are. They actually DO things to make an impact. We need leadership to organize this. We can’t just wait until the next round of elections. There is stuff we can do NOW! Trump has been a heavy hitter but we can’t rely on that two year plan. If it works out cause of his leadership great. But aren’t we tired of waiting for election cycles to solve things? Fool me once shame on you lol. What is the count on us waiting for the next election cycle, things never going our way, and never learning our lessons? We can’t rely on new and supposedly improved politicians. There are things WE can do. And we must get down in the dirt ourselves, but together.

smith. jane smith.
smith. jane smith.

Learn the laws for citizen’s arrest in your state.

It might be on YOU to do what needs to be done.

WRTurner
WRTurner

Will anyone go to jail or will President Trump take office? No. Half of America thinks the election was fraudulent, the other half is made up of evil leftists (a relatively small group) and ignorant liberals, many of who may not of liked Trump but will not stand for election fraud, so the truth of what happened in the election is important. States have to get involved in protecting the Republic so the more truth that is out there, the easier to press gutless politicians to act. Hopefully this audit will lead other citizens in other states to demand actions from their legislators. We have the truth on our side and that will mean something.

PDQ
PDQ

Well put

scuba steve
scuba steve

Nothing is going to change if all we do is comment on the internet….

JJS
JJS

Or the people with the needed information end up dead…

S johnson
S johnson

It is all about the rally point. We have been waiting for the BIG ONE to all get together to RALLY behind.

Adam Smith
Adam Smith

There is simply no way to undo a presidential election after the electors vote and the votes are counted and someone takes the oath.
I know people have some strange fantasies about Biden being tossed out, but that is simply not going to happen.

John
John

Isn’t election fraud a crime. They tried for 4 years to put trump in jail and he was twice put on trial. Stealing an election is a bigger crime than Trump asking a counties leader to look into Joe Biden’s fraud.

Ralph C
Ralph C

Really? Then what is treason and the punishment for treason? Seems it would apply to a person who completed treason by fraud and then swore the oath to occupy the office of any government position and you think they can’t be removed? How would a dead body be able to hold office? The federal treason statute, 18 U.S.C. § 2381, mirrors the Constitution’s language and imposes minimum penalties of five years’ imprisonment and a $10,000 fine. A conviction bars the defendant from holding any federal office and carries the possibility of the death penalty.death offense.”

Roadrash
Roadrash

Then laws are no longer relevant and “other things” will have to be done to our enemies .

Orbisme
Orbisme

The MSM is responsible. They are the protectors of the corrupt. Untill we fix them we fix nothing..

Michael
Michael

I think we need to stop trying to control them and control what we can do. We need to be organized in solutions, it’s the only way we can make an impactful difference. A scoundrel may remain a scoundrel even if people surround him stage and intervention lol. I talked about it in another thread a few comments down and what I feel we could do. I am tired of doing nothing about all this myself. I feel like my impact alone would be stupid like imagining my fist can make a tidal wave by beating the Pacific Ocean. We need effective leadership so we all come together able to make a real impact together. Strength in numbers. And I did offer some ways, and I hope others are open to what I said or have a better alternative.

Melany Lizakowski
Melany Lizakowski

You need to run for office. Great mind!

smith. jane smith.
smith. jane smith.

Stop calling them mainstream. That’s a start.

They’re no longer legit,therefore are nothing more than corporate media.

James O’Keefe and Dave Rubin are more legit than any newsroom.

Tyleete
Tyleete

I agree with Michael. They’ve had months and months to fixit. And it was broadcast everywhere how Jonah’s test would prove the ballots to be fake. You think they were doing nothing about the ballots in all this time? All they had to do was fold them! Case closed. If like to get excited about this, but won’t be surprised when nothing comes of it.:/

Michael
Michael

That’s a good point. The so called ballot expert is telling us that the krim dela krim is folding? Really lol? And the swamp didn’t know that and wouldn’t protect their operation? And their way out was FOLDING paper? Give me a break. Once again, I hope I’m off base here. But once you come into contact with lying criminals and realize them as such, it’s hard to suddenly rationalize trusting them 100% for no reason mainly when they behave like narcissistic, sociopathic gas lighters from hell about it.

PDQ
PDQ

Creasing? Maybe. BUT, pretty sure they did not replace all the fake ballots. If they did, the paper of the new fakes would still be detectable as “off.” Probably impossible to get rid of that “tell.”
There may be genius fraudster-hackers out there in cyberspace, but on-the ground fraudsters are people like Ruby Freeman (in AZ, probably not same ethnic background as her). Not geniuses.

Michael
Michael

PDQ: I hope you’re right but if we are talking about the swamp, they definitely have capability to get specialized help. I mean we even got reports of intelligence agencies doing shady stuff against trump such as with the Steele dossier but not limited to. INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES. They wouldn’t necessarily stick to the little guns when they have elite guns lol. And this is the kind of hard hitting thing that could bring them down and considering how they behave they feel like they have a lot to lose. They don’t go gently into the good submissive night, they double down and fight harder has been their MO. And they’d stick to little guns with this? But I saw the point you were getting at and it is a valid one to consider.