Professor of Molecular Genetics issues ‘chilling warning’ on Covid mRNA vaccines…

Posted by Kane on January 31, 2021 12:25 am

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SOURCE — LEW ROCKWELL

 

 

Latent Deaths Predicted Among The Elderly After Immunization With mRNA Vaccine

 

Dr. Dolores Cahill, professor of molecular genetics, School of Medicine at University College Dublin, and chairwoman of Irish Freedom Party,

 

 

 


 

 

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Then the real adverse events will happen, against whatever is the real mRNA in the vaccines, and when the person vaccinated comes across (this coronavirus) sometime later …. what happened in the animal studies, 20% or 50% or 100% of the animals died. Among people over 80, maybe about 2.5% will experience severe side effects, adverse events where people cannot work or live life normally.

 

Then with the 2nd vaccination it could be 1 in 10 or ten percent. For the over 80-year-olds, I would think that 80% of them would have life-limiting reactions or die when they come across the messenger RNA again.

 

For others (not elderly) it could be half of the people who could be severely harmed.

 

What it does is this gene therapy or medical device is setting up an autoimmune disease chronically.

 

It’s anaphylaxis in the first wave. It’s anaphylaxis +allergic reaction the 2nd wave. But the 3rd reaction occurs when you come across whatever the messenger RNA is against (virus), and now you have stimulated your immune system to have a low-grade autoimmune disease, not immunity to yourself per se because the mRNA is expressing a viral protein.

 

Now you’ve made yourself into a genetically modified organism, and so the immune system that is meant to push the viruses or bacteria out… now the autoimmune reaction is attacking your body low grade.

 

Now months later when you come across the virus that stimulates the immune system to get rid of the virus and when the immune system sees that you have viral proteins in your own cells and organs, then about a week later (the adaptive immune system kicks in, the mechanism that makes specific long-term memory antibodies against a pathogen) and you go into organ failure.

 

Because your immune system is killing your own organs. Those patients will present as sepsis initially. Then later you die of organ failure.

 

If you have one or two co-morbidities, the energy the immune system requires will make the older person very tired and exhausted and they don’t have the capacity to survive if you have underlying conditions.

 

Normally, because the mRNA is in every cell of their body, it’s almost unstoppable. It destroys the heart, or the spleen, or the lungs, or the liver because the mRNA is expressing the protein in every cell.

 

Just as a solution, what we urgently need, just as a repository, 1 in 100, or 1 in 200 vaccine vials injected, to be set aside, especially into the elderly in the care homes. They need to be stored in a biorepository of the vaccine vials randomly, so when the people start to die, we can actually see what is in this vaccine. We should be doing this now.

 

I am concerned that there are maybe multiple mRNAs in this vaccine, not just something for coronavirus.

 

We urgently need quality control to randomly require doctors to give 1 in 100 vaccine vials to a repository and someone like me could forensically analyze what’s in these vaccines.

 

So, when the elderly start dying, we will know. We should be knowing now what’s in them. It’s absolutely a dangerous gene therapy. Should not be given to the elderly,” emphasized professor Cahill.

 

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Low Rider
Low Rider

I’m not taking the vaccine.

Mr Right
Mr Right

No way, no how should you get one of these ‘Vaccines”.

(unless your a democrat or a rino)

Maxwell
Maxwell

Wow. Moderna in 2018 called itself a gene therapy company. Notice the msm bringing out doctors and so-called experts to insinuate the mRNA COVID vaccines are not gene therapy. That’s because if they admit they are not vaccines, and to this day a vaccine is supposed to confer some type of immunity and there is no evidence these COVID [vaccines] gene therapies to prevent infections or spread, that means they deceived the public and violated USC 15 the Federal trade Commission Act – which prohibits deceptive acts, and as such their liability protections are gone.

Also, RT-PCR is not a diagnostic, that is a fact so every time a COVID-19 infection is reported on the basis of a positive result, that also violates USC 15.

Check out David Martin’s presentation and send it to the US attorney in your state.
https://www.brighteon.com/3dab90dd-212e-4688-875a-cb8cb96f7e9a

Maxwell
Maxwell

If it’s a gene therapy, and Professor Cahill is a genetics expert so it must be; does that mean it permanently alters the DNA? I wish I could ask Professor Cahill that question.

Almostnuts
Almostnuts

It’s a bioweapon. When’s the last time any “ authority” in any field worked for your well being? It’s a trust thing. I’m suspicious of angels right now.

Rusty
Rusty

I still say give EVERY politician in DC, every NFL/MLB “star”, every hollywood elitist, every leftist mayor the shots first.
Wait a year. If none of them die, then we know it is safe. If many or all of them die, we still are winners!

Claudia
Claudia

I like the way you think.

Geoffrey Britain
Geoffrey Britain

How would you know that they’re actually getting the Moderna or Phyzer ‘vaccine’?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill

Yeah, I holding off to see how this plays out

Lee
Lee

The video has more English thru out the thing. Terrifying. You know everyone mostly are determined not to let the concentration camps happen again so they came up with this ….release a alien “virus” and then panic panic panic everybody so they would beg for the “vaccine” and kill off as many as they can, then they’ll come after those who refuse to take it and the camps will be again. BUT I’m sure this woman, a molecular scientist is a fake and we shouldn’t listen to her but listen to the evil, wicked liars and crooks cause they know better and are looking out for us. RIGHT/‼️⁉️‼️‼️⁉️

P. D. Blackwell
P. D. Blackwell

Just an observation of the presentation: The original LewRockwell.com video has music playing in the background of Cahill’s comments. The link here also had the music, but that was later removed. Was this done to improve audible comprehension? If so, that was a great decision. Was the music added originally to disrupt the comments?

CHRIS
CHRIS

I can’t help feeling that the leople who are pushing Covid and its vaccines are the ones making the most money out of it. I’m also concerned that for many years one often reads of people who are ‘worried’ about the ageing population and who would have no qualms whatsoever in euthanizing them. A big part of me wonders whether this is what we are seeing.

Lee
Lee

That would include Bill Gates and his ilk who want to kill off a bunch of us for whatever reason. These people are mentally deranged and ate up with their elitism and self love.

Wanda Burks
Wanda Burks

Those that push the panic,
push the cure.

george
george

I’m not an attorney, and not a doctor, but do have a brain and here are my thoughts.

Who does lawsuit immunity apply to? IF it is only the vaccine maker, THEN the hospital, the clinic system, the prescribing doctor, the prescription-filling pharmacy, may possibly all still be sued. That could be the quickest way to end this evil plot. Plenty of wrongful death lawsuits. It could be done for failure to use known effective cures, too. (YES I AM USING THE WORD CURE.) Again, not a doctor here.

And it may be possible to sue a whole bunch of corporate officers of the various corporations involved, and go after their personal assets, via ‘piercing the corporate veil’ if they can be proven guilty of fraud or negligence. There’s been plenty of fraud by the hospital industry with calling so many deaths due to Covid, that are not, which misleads the public and the patients. There appears to be plenty of negligence by it, too.

Also, the fake news media corporations could probably be easily shown in court, to be in total cahoots with the vaccine industry. I BET THEY DON’T HAVE IMMUNITY FROM MIS-LEADING THE PUBLIC. Or was it the fraud or negligence of ‘news’ media corporate officers that mislead the public? They should end up sued, too, for their part in all of this, especially the coronavirus vaccine pushing.

Finally, and again I am not an attorney, but I think that if people are signing ‘waivers’ or ‘disclaimers’ before taking the vaccine, these may not amount to a hill of beans in court, if they are not contracts and have all the elements of a contract necessary for it to be legal and enforceable by a court. For instance, for just one thing, does a waiver include a consideration? And, does it truly provide informed consent.

AND WHAT WOULD A JURY DO!!!???!!! Juries have much more power than people have ever been taught. If they know ahead of court, and keep their mouths shut about it, they can acquit the guilty or convict the innocent if they see fit, and do the same with a lawsuit, and not have to give a reason for it. They can nullify laws at the case level if they want. It doesn’t matter what or how much of a case is made.

Robert
Robert

Before the Covid vaccine was introduced, the HHS secretary Azar altered the liability rules, basically expanding them to cover anyone who make, distributes OR administers the vaccine. There is NO one you can sue. They created a special gov’t court (outside of the already existing vaccine court) to determine if you have a case and the payout, I believe, is limited to 250K even if it kills your family member. But first, you have to prove your case, which could be very difficult. There are no juries in the gov’t vaccine courts, just a group of insiders who don’t have your best interests in mind. Media can just claim ignorance, “hey, I’m just reporting what the CDC told me.”

Patriot
Patriot

Well, Bill Gates was all about population control….

toothdecay123
toothdecay123

What needs to be done is to totally eradicate a 100% Corrupt NWO-Cabal-Controlled Inverted-Totalitarian Police-State government parading around as some form of a democratic-free-capitalistic-system that’s never existed, that the NWO-Cabal totally controls and uses it as it’s platform to launch, sustain, and enforce it’s evil agendas onto mankind.

ralph.cramdown
ralph.cramdown

Prof. Dolores Cahill has apparently spent her entire professional career making bad measurements
(REF: http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/7/e1700006 , this woman doesn’t know what she’s talking
about or first thing about m-RNA, a cow just spewing verbiage is not constructive).

Jan
Jan

There’s theory, then there’s experience under varying conditions. I suspect Dr. Cahill addresses the real world … https://prezi.com/i/byzl22mqwfaa/experiences-following-cvvaa/

ManBearPig
ManBearPig

No, she really has no idea what she is talking about. mRNA vaccines are not gene therapy, her basic premise is total crap

Kathi
Kathi

What qualifications do you have to make these accusations?

Kim
Kim

Gotta get most of those boomers off the SS rolls!

Jan
Jan

… and make a MASSIVE profit in the process; right, Cuomo? People like Cuomo are Malthusians, meaning they believe the warnings of Malthus that the world’s resources are limited and they should do whatever they can to lessen the numbers of people — that’s what they mean when they say their Great Reset is designed for a ‘Sustainable’ population. The so-called vax is a part of that. Their Great Reset is just another slice of Agenda 21(30/50). Not all is as it seems. Look up http://www.TheGreaterReset.org to see how people like us are doing an end-run around Davos in a People’s movement. You’ll find LOTS of great ideas and community there.

Honesty
Honesty

I have heard the exact same thing from other places about this vaccine. Did you get the vaccine? It’s a virus that is not even that deadly. I would not take a chance like this if you haven’t already. Besides more and more truth is slowly coming out. The virus was made in Fauci’s lab then shipped to China. Then factor in the comments that Bill Gates has made in the past and even doubled down on. Just take a minute an connect all of the dots. If you do that alone it’s going to tell you this vaccine is not a good idea.

Philip Faustman
Philip Faustman

Global Extermination of human beings is the goal.

bill andrews
bill andrews

Go into battle…or a football game…or a small business with the lack of confirmed, conflicting, or just plain imaginary data as this therapy [it is NOT a vaccine], and see how that works out for you.

Ahmoh
Ahmoh

All planned by the uber elite to remover all the older useless eaters, and thusly leave the younger less populist easier to control to do the ruling one’s wishes.

Sun King
Sun King

Primum non nocere: “First, do no harm”

This “vaccine” has already killed people and also caused Bell’s Palsy, and anaphylactic shock.

The above is being reworded by the Democrat Party to read: “Some serious harm is perfectly OK if there is a virus that over 99.99% do not die from.”

Jack
Jack

Hold a international debate between scientist and medical Doctors on each side of this issue so that we people can make an educational decision. This video is helpful and educational but both sides need to be debated in a public forum.

Sun King
Sun King

The last thing they want is the people making an educated decision. Or any decision for that matter.

Atom man
Atom man
Atom man
Atom man

And another one!

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/39-year-old-nurse-aide-dies-within-48-hours-of-receiving-mandated-covid-19-shot

An accident, a coincidence? “We have a saying in Chicago, Mr. Bond. Once is a happenstance, twice is a coincidence, three times it’s enemy action.”

jo blo
jo blo

I think an important indicator was when merck announced that they are ‘scrapping development’ of covid vaccines, saying that ‘getting the disease provides better immunity’. Considering that pharma companies are protected from liability for the vaccines this seems remarkable. https://summit.news/2021/01/26/merck-scraps-covid-vaccines-says-its-more-effective-to-get-the-virus-and-recover/

Even with no liability risk, they don’t want to make money? Perhaps they fear the reputational risk too much??
If merck thinks so little of the vaccine idea, that seems quite an indicator.

Rah
Rah

I don’t see on Merck’s website that they abandoned the development of a vaccine for the reason given in this article. Have they possibly been misrepresented by the author of this article? Would be helpful to know. Thanks for sharing.

Petras
Petras

Absolutely true. This admission is coming from Merck, a major drug manufacture. It speaks volumes that they are admitting a vaccine is inferior for protection and that a person getting Covid-19 and recovering is the best immunity to acquire. Your natural God given immune system. Do not mess with this vaccine as the genetic changes will be permanent…your whole life…and the unknown adverse long term effects could be very serious.

Tailwalk
Tailwalk

“Normal” citizens are not deemed capable of understanding the science and not allowed to choose for themselves . journalists are complicit of course since they themselves are incapable of passing an elementary college course in science 101.

Mary Jane dehanes
Mary Jane dehanes

My daughter is a full time nurse in a very large facility. Less than 50% of the employee’s received the vaccine by choice. Super bonuses and other “bribes” were offered to the employees to take the vaccine! (NO JOKE) Many nurses, including my daughter, will not take the vaccine, and they can really use the bonus money. What does that tell you? She also reports that the 2nd shot has major side effects and medical staff hired just to monitor these residents/patients.

Atom man
Atom man

I’ve been watching Prof. Cahill, PhD on Brighteon – she has credentials and she is not alone. One black CNA nursing home worker there said 14 people have recently died where he works – the common thread? All had taken the messenger RNA vaccines.

https://www.brighteon.com/f577ad55-66db-4242-9bd9-774f87b6518c

Atom man
Atom man

Here is another one – please read this story carefully.

https://humansarefree.com/2021/01/johns-hopkins-scientist-a-medical-certainty-pfizer-vaccine-caused-death-of-florida-doctor.html

Stories like the ones I have mentioned have been banned from mainstream social media. Why are they being censored.

Ahmoh
Ahmoh

So you don’t hear about the deaths this buls hit stuff is causing. Just do as you’re told, remove your clothing, take a shower and go into the drying rooms (gas chamber ovens). People dutifully complied, or else. You had a choice, burn to death or be shot.

Atom man
Atom man

Yes, it is a mistake to assume this Irish lady scientist is just some lone “nut”. Here is another PhD level scientist talking about “pathogenic priming”:

https://www.brighteon.com/36ee7cb9-259f-4cb2-9677-5118fbb69e8a

Operation Warp Speed is producing about 4 different vaccine types – if you have the time or inclination, this engineering society has given an excellent overview of the technology:

https://spectrum.ieee.org/biomedical/devices/this-is-how-well-vaccinate-the-world-against-covid19

Whether any type will be “safe” or not, I don’t know. At the moment I am not going to take the messenger RNA vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna). For those who have or will, I will wish you God bless and good luck in the future if you encounter any corona virus – 7 exist but only MERS and SARS Cov 1 and 2 can be dangerous – 1 came from bats and 2 was given “gain of function” by Prof. Ralph Baric at UNC-Chapel Hill with the assistance of Shi Zengli and another visiting Chinese scientist from that lab in Wuhan- true! I think the CCP and PLA took that virus and further “enhanced” it. Did any of you see this?

https://plague.info/2021-01-26-steve-hilton-drops-bombshell-faucis-commissioned-research.html

If the pathogenic priming theory is true however, encounter even with a milder version may produce a severe reaction. Time will tell as they say. Meanwhile I am still working, exposed to the “public” and taking vitamins D3, C, B1, minerals zinc, selenium, and nutrient quercetin to fully absorb the zinc. Good luck to all of you.

Atom man
Atom man

If you do get a chance, please listen to the 1st video listed above. It has some titles and captions for the important points. His 2nd point concerns pathogenic priming and his 3rd point concerns proteins tn the virus and the vaccines that target the immune system.

It is clear to me that the CCP and PLA sponsored “gain of function” modifications to make the virus more contagious and damaging – that is not surprising since they are not our friends. Was USG quiet about this since they did not know if this was an accidental or purposeful release and did not want to start a nuclear war? Is it true that such proteins are also in the vaccines? Is there a profit motive involved? Why are “minorities” being urged to take these vaccines? Is there a conspiracy to eliminate the “useless eaters” or the “troublemakers”?

One last “gem” is his statement that many people in NYC died because the mechanical ventilators had the pressures set too high, He also mentions the damage from the politically inspired lockdowns. I will add that the lockdowns did two bad things in terms of physical health – they kept people out of Sunlight decreasing vitamin D3 and they caused an increase in the consumption of ethyl alcohol decreasing vitamin B1. Both vitamins are now known to be important for the immune system.

Joe Cooper
Joe Cooper

Is it also ‘clear to you’ that the virus was spiked at the US military lab at Ft. Detrick and delivered to the US Military games in Wuhan, shortly before the ‘official’ outbreak? You didn’t mention that.

Honesty
Honesty

If all of the people censoring actually are the ones who take the vaccine then they can censor me all they want. Disqus is censoring your comments now if you even say anything about the vaccine Fauci or Bill Gates it gets removed immediately.

Atom man
Atom man

This new story says this other “decedent” (thanks Perry Mason) was only 39 years old:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/39-year-old-nurse-aide-dies-within-48-hours-of-receiving-mandated-covid-19-shot

Eshee
Eshee

I also am a nurse and I kid you not the day after reading this(I preferred this format!) Drs info I was at work and my coworkers patient(elderly) had returned from hospital day before. I read report. Extremely sick after 2nd dose moderna vaccine and eventually sent to ER. She was septic…. I will be curious to see if organs start to be affected next!
And FYI we were bribed $200 upon completion of vaccine. I’d say Atleast 40% not getting injection. All patients and staff have had the 2 doses. My thought is I was told my PPE would protect me from them and them from me so…..are you saying I’m not safe enough now? I call bullshit! Bottom line is ALWAYS $$$ we are secondary

Miss Marple
Miss Marple

I encountered this lady months ago. She’s on the money IMO.

She has also recently added that, if any other flu strain or whatnot strain is actually included in the mRNA vaccination, your body’s autoimmune system will literally be fighting the mRNA already situated within your cell’s nucleus (which is why it replicates throughout your entire body) and fighting a simple flu or cold which may have entered and affected your body. The situation for you becomes life threatening because the immune system must fight an infection INSIDE your body, specifically inside the CELLS throughout your body via a low-grade auto-immune response in constant operation, AND mount a defense to the presenting flu or cold.

Perhaps PAST flu vaccinations, represented by your antibodies, will signal “fighting” if the immune system begins to collapse and cannot recognize necessary functions and problems. We don’t know because this technology is highly experimental and being publically tried now with the vaccine roll out.

I posted this article later last night on Open Thread: from “Humans Are Free” entitled “53 Dead In Gibraltar In 10 Days After Experimental Pfizer MRNA COVID Injections Started” by Brian Shilhavy.

https://humansarefree.com/2021/01/53-dead-in-gibraltar-in-10-days-after-experimental-pfizer-mrna-covid-injections-started.html

Clifford Notes version: prior to Jan. 9 when Gibraltar received their Covid vaccinations, they had had 17 deaths from Covid in total. Within a week of the vaccinations, they had 36.

“Since the 9th January ‘Covid deaths’ per million have rocketed to Third Place on the Worldometer site. Thirty-six more deaths in little over a week. What changed on the Ninth? The RAF flew in nearly 6,000 Pfizer vaccines, cooled to -70C by dry ice. They were put to use quickly to avoid the risk of degradation.

Tiny Gibraltar is like a petri dish; in no other place has there been such a brutally clear relationship between vaccine roll-out and increased ‘Covid deaths.'”

And you know what? I don’t even try to tell anyone anymore about this in my personal life. These people are so afraid and so mind controlled via MSM, they are desperately rushing to get the vaccination. There’s nothing you can do for them.

g
g

It’s almost like a spiritual blindness, the inability to go research for anything counter to vaccine propaganda, the stubborn belief in vaccines, the bowing down to doctors and trusting them and the corporations that own them.

Anna
Anna

Thanks Kane ! Very informative video.

TBT
TBT

I heard she was trained by Fauci.
She’ll change her story tomorrow.

Pete Wilson
Pete Wilson

We need to pass this information on to many people. This is sick.
If I were to send this to a certain friend of mine- who wears her mask everywhere- she would not believe it and get angry with me. It seems impossible to change minds.
It’s in God’s hands now.

Bill
Bill

Please pass the below link on Vaccines to everyone ASAP!!!!!

https://thenewamerican.com/bio-warfare-weaponization-of-medicine-amid-covid/

James
James

Thanks for the heads up Bill.. this is the best I’ve seen, and I just passed it on.

Jane Doe
Jane Doe

My son: Mom, how is it numbers from the flu and pneumonia have decreased because we have been wearing masks, but Covid numbers are rising because we aren’t wearing the masks.

Me: Exactly. Ask Fauci and Gates.

Mike
Mike

Other Me: Did you even read what you just said?? Read it again and put you effing mask on then maybe Covid will stop rising!!

george
george

Yes, ah, put two masks on, and be even safer.

Tscotttraveler
Tscotttraveler

Dummy, the kid is referring to the reports that are inconsistent. The same medical personnel and politicians are saying that the flu is decreasing because people are wearing masks, at the same time saying that people are getting Covid because they’re NOT wearing masks, So which report is right? There, I just translated the kids simple observation for you. Get it now?

Johnnykicks
Johnnykicks

Your kid sounds bright, you should ask his advice more often. He understands causation. Put mask on, numbers go down. Take mask off, numbers go up. So simple even your kid gets it.

Tscotttraveler
Tscotttraveler

Yeah, but it seems YOU do not. Go back and read it again

Do the math
Do the math

How do y’all figure there’s a 99.9% survival rate when .134% of the entire US population (including those who haven’t had the virus yet) has already died of Covid-19?

Phil
Phil

.0134% not .134… public math and all.

Do the math
Do the math

Nope, .1% = 1/1000. Devide the US population (328 million) by 1000 and you get 328,000. Far less than the number who have already died of covid-19.

rocketride
rocketride

Other than the fact that the official figures you cite are highly inflated. . . BTW, I couldn’t find the devide key on my calculator.

math magic?
math magic?

1% = 1/100… NOT 1 /1000

Buldog
Buldog

Read again: .1% or 0.1% =1/1000.
You are reading 1%.

Johnnykicks
Johnnykicks

I think do the math’s point is being illustrated….most people on this board don’t even understand percentages.

72USMA
72USMA

If you believe CV stats are legit and hospitals aren’t fudging diagnoses for federal dollars.

george
george

Those dead are, by and large, only low info low IQ people who are too trusting of doctors and Big Pharma and who never do any of their own homework but expect everybody else or somebody else or the government to do it for them.

TooTruth
TooTruth

Funny how left wing shill “experts” always appear en masse to comment on your articles related to Covid19. It’s almost as if there is some kind of agenda out there….

Joe Barnett
Joe Barnett

What animals died? Which studies? Context is everything.

Fred Astaire
Fred Astaire

She should start by explaining how mRNA gets into every cell. That should be fun to hear.
She’s a nutter given an audience by an ignorant media.

Jack O'Daniels
Jack O'Daniels

how do you think any vaccine gets into the cells you moron, through your blood, it reproduces in one cell and as that cell splits as cells do and multiplies it reproduces the mRNA coding and just like aids or certain cancers it spreads to every cell in your body, your cells (red and white) constantly reproduce themselves _ Dr. Dolores Cahill, professor of molecular genetics, School of Medicine at University College Dublin, there’s your ‘nutter’ you nutter.

zerofoo
zerofoo

mRNA isn’t delivered to cells by itself. It is delivered by an engineered virus carrier. The mRNA payload is inserted into the engineered viral carrier. That viral carrier seeks a cell to infect and delivers the mRNA instructions to the host cell. The host cell takes the mRNA instructions and produces the coronavirus protein spike.

This protein spike is then recognized by your immune system and antibodies to the spike are produced. This is how immunity to coronavirus is created both naturally and artificially. The mRNA instructions can not propagate from cell to cell without a viral carrier.

Eventually cells containing the coronavirus mRNA instructions die during their natural life cycle. Those cells are replaced with cells without the mRNA instructions since those instructions are not part of your body’s DNA.

Eventually, protein spike synthesis ceases and eventually your immune system stops producing the antibodies to the protein spike. The remaining question is – how long do B and T cells retain “memory” of the spike. The answer to this question is how long you remain immune to coronavirus.

I’m just an engineer, but this is my high-level understanding of how mRNA vaccines work.

Southern Sense
Southern Sense
Buldog
Buldog

Agree! The two of us got first Pfizer shot 4 days ago and waiting for a second shot to finish this vaccination. One of us had a very minor pain in the arm, the other did not.
Our two younger family members, medical doctors at a hospital, finished both shots over 3 weeks ago – no side effects. Some of their patients have covid-19.
My other family member at 93 years old in poor health had her first Maderna shot – no side-effects, not even a sore arm.
Older people are less likely to have side-effects since their immune system is not going to react as strongly as younger ones.
Many 65+ y.o. neighbors already had first vaccination shots in my neighborhood and no side-effects were posted on nextdoor.com

JJ
JJ

The problem begins when you are exposed to the virus at a later date. Presents itself as an autoimmune disease, sepsis and more. The animal studies… when the virus came in from the wild is when the majority of the deaths occurred. That is one reason they stopped that prior vaccine and never produced a vaccine for SARS1. They have done no animal studies on this vaccine. It’s complicated but don’t take this lightly. Many doctors around the whole world are speaking out. This is an EXPERIMENTAL vaccine. We will sit this out and see what happens. There are good treatments if you do get the virus but must be given early! Make sure you are taking D, zinc, quercetin, C. This is going to be a long haul

Paper Clip
Paper Clip

The Pfizer and moderna vaccines already went through phase 3 clinical trials (thousands of test cases).

Sun King
Sun King

Since when do a few thousand test subjects dictate what is going to happen to 4 billion people?

Have you heard they have not HALTED giving it to pregnant women? Why do you suppose that would be….?

Johhnnykicks
Johhnnykicks

Sun king….science is hard, but that indeed is how it is done. It’s a statistical sample.

Joe Cooper
Joe Cooper

Everything to do with the COVID is junk science, try to think, it’s not that hard.

Joe Cooper
Joe Cooper

The ‘trials’ were far from being properly completed, you left that part out.

Sun King
Sun King

“ Older people are less likely to have side-effects since their immune system is not going to react as strongly as younger ones.”

Translation: The vaccine does not work on older people.

Unless you think an immune response is optional.

bonnie
bonnie

Did you listen? It could be up to a year from now that it has a negative effect..

Mak
Mak

Per the CDC: Once the instructions (mRNA) are inside the immune cells, the cells use them to make the protein piece. After the protein piece is made, the cell breaks down the instructions and gets rid of them.

Sun King
Sun King

Is that the CDC that said masks were useless?

Thought so.

Johnnykicks
Johnnykicks

CDC did not say masks were useless. They recommended against using them. That is really two different things.

Newton
Newton

First of all, if you get Covid, you have a 99.9% chance of survival which is on par with the flu.

Even if you have comorbidities and other health problems that raise your risk factor, The hydroxychloriquin/Zinc/Zithromicin cocktail drug will kill the virus if you get the drug EARLY.

So what do you even need to take a vaccine for, especially one that is untested, and quite possibly dangerous, according to Irelend’s Professor of Molecular Genetics whom states this vaccine is killing lab animals with “Latent Death” and will do the same to seniors whom take the vccine.

Here is the interview with Dr. Dolores Cahill, professor of molecular genetics, School of Medicine at University College Dublin, and chairwoman of Irish Freedom Party (2nd video from the top right here on CFP):
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/professor-of-molecular-genetics-issues-chilling-warning-on-covid-mrna-vaccines/

Brian McMillan
Brian McMillan

Depopulation through vaccination…Bill’s Gatesway to hell…

TBT
TBT

I don’t think that HCQ et all “kills the virus”. The meds mentioned above lessen the seriousness of lung infection and pneumonia giving the body time to naturally fight the virus and avoid drowning.
BTW my doctor said she didn’t believe in these meds and wouldn’t prescribe them I couldn’t buy on line except from India so I purchased homeopathic replacements. I got a new doctor! Thank God I haven’t needed any meds and at 80 I got my first Moderna today.
My friend in California, whose wife is a retired viroloogist, says I will grow a tail. I’ll let you all know!

bob
bob

she is in error…..the viral mRNA does not become part of your genome because your body does not normally contain reverse transcriptase that would write the instructions permanently into your DNA……..after a short time the viral mRNA is broken down in the cytosol just like all the other mRNA coming out of the cell nucleus…….this lady is an alarmist who should have her theories checked by experts before dumping them into the public opinion sphere

Billyjoe
Billyjoe

She is the chairwoman for a right wing political party….I wonder why she might overlook those important details.

Skeptic
Skeptic

BJ, go ahead and take the shot. I choose to not be used as a lab rat.

cusfo
cusfo

And you are a member of a left wing political party…..I know why you would deflect from important details.

Sun King
Sun King

The vaccine’s side effect is making the recipient reason like a rabid Leftist.

Bluejeannie
Bluejeannie

Is the booster shot identical to the first shot?

johnnycatt
johnnycatt

And your info is from where? Forgive me, I’m a engineer, so medical expertise is not my thing… just seems that introducing something that has the ability to change the system may not be good idea… I cannot design machines with variable-speed transmissions then allow just anyone access to the varying mechanism.

Paper Clip
Paper Clip

mRNA doesn’t write to DNA, it’s the “work copy” of instructions used to make proteins.

LoralieC
LoralieC

You may want to check out R-loop theories that are showing that indeed MRNA can effect DNA.

constantvigil
constantvigil

The FDA proved it couldn’t be trusted years ago when they allowed Vioxx (and many other drugs) to go on the market knowing that it caused heart attacks, they kept it on the market for 5 years and ~60,000 deaths later, so their Big Pharma cronies – revolving door – could recoup R&D. Look up David Graham who worked in the FDA’s Office of Drug Safety on Vioxx – one patient’s lawsuit settled for $253 million.

aw11.4agze
aw11.4agze

… the question of the day: “… mommy, why do I have to wear a mask?”

ANSWER: It’s but for no good reason than, wacked-out virologists in communist China can’t be bothered to wipe, after going to the effing toilet –

Myarmhurts
Myarmhurts

Folks, 8m here to report that I have the devil’s elixir coursing through my veins as we speak! I can feel it’s evil taking over my body cell by cell. My DNA is begging for death, but the vaccine has other ideas. I’ve been thinking of new ideas by the minute. I used to be hardcore Trump support, but now I prefer welfare, being heavily taxed, and worst of all….I feel compulsions to put a diaper on my face.

In all seriousness, my arm hurts. I’ll report back in 30 days.

Leigh
Leigh

South Florida doctor dies two weeks after receiving the Covid shot… I’d rather pass considering I have a 99.9% chance of survival if I get the virus.

Billyjoe
Billyjoe

Everyone will die x days after receiving the vaccine. Causation is the important factor.

Using anecdotal reasoning is a very risky way to live. Good luck.

Research these terms if they are unfamiliar and free your mind!

rocketride
rocketride

Most people who die in the US ate at least one potato sometime in the month before they died. That doesn’t mean the potatoes killed them.

Be
Be

The doctor had symptoms relative to the vaccine within 3 days.

JimmyP
JimmyP

I farted 30 seconds after I got my vaccine. The vaccine doesn’t cause you to fart.

Joe Cooper
Joe Cooper

Sounds like you took the vaccine where the sun don’t shine, just your speed.

JJ
JJ

Too bad

aw11.4agze
aw11.4agze

…your worst nightmare; the epitome of government failure, this episode in germ warfare proves, no government can be entrusted, even the most basic, fundamental aspect of equity, diligence, prudence, nor conservancy.

When governments fail, every single time they lie, like a six year old (e.g., TWA flight 800). Pardon my French, no gentle way of putting this, their f__k-you attitude, they have no compunction whatsoever squandering billions, covering up their malfeasance, corruption, ineptitude.

And, they’ll lie, ’til the day they die.

I have special information. It wasn’t just one virus leaked from communist China’s bio-weapons lab. It was more than several. All of them carry a payload (e.g., gain-of-function). Some carry multiple deliverables (e.g., encephalitis; anosmia; blindness; insanity, psychosis, pulmonary failure, venereal disease; HIV; God knows what else).

Showing remarkable resilience, once seemingly under control, these 2019-nCov’s persistence, their axiom to rebound, is thus far truly remarkable. Boomeranging back ‘n forth, in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th waves, communist China’s 2019-nCov virus strains could reverberate the better part of a decade. Mutating, in successive waves, ever-growing in veracity and competence, China’s pet 2019-nCovs could wipe out millions.

This thing’s going to be a wipe-out. China’s 2019 nCov strains are going to be with us, a good long while.

aw11.4agze
aw11.4agze

… virology 101 for idiots, there are three viral archetypes:

Naturally occurring –
– e.g., a virus randomly dundering around its biosphere, a consequence of catalyst spawned alchemy of natural selection.

Gain-of-function –
– e.g., germ-warfare; virus specifically enhanced to deliver a payload, for which to arbitrarily insult a cohort with a contagious, communicable affliction, or collection of them (e.g., (e.g., encephalitis; anosmia; blindness; insanity, psychosis, pulmonary failure, venereal disease; HIV).

Creative Design –
– e.g., a virus extraterrestrial in origin, specifically bio-engineered with a deliverable, targeting an architectural mutation or alteration, in DNA or mitochondria.

aw11.4agze
aw11.4agze

ps – … if you’re using eye-drops, flushing daily with a Neilmed, thoroughly wiping after each bowel movement, showering twice daily, you are not to contract this virus –

Billyjoe
Billyjoe

Are you ok? Please talk to a loved one and see if you might need help.

Watson
Watson

7 Myths About the COVID Vaccine You Should Stop Believing
https://www.livestrong.com/article/13731000-covid-vaccine-conspiracy-theories/

Messenger RNA (mRNA) tells our cells to make protein. It does not affect your genetic coding; it merely trains your body to recognize the spike protein, so your immune system is prepared to mount a defense when you encounter the virus.

Samuel Culper
Samuel Culper

I don’t need a vaccine for the common cold. Sorry.

Mountain Chief
Mountain Chief

In your cells, DNA is transcribed into messenger RNA, or mRNA to leave the nucleus of the cell. This more mobile genetic coding is combined with ribosmal RNA (rRNA) and transfer RNA (tRNA) to be “translated.” Translation involves the creation of amino acids followed by the primary, secondary, and tertiary folding of proteins. This mRNA vaccine uses CRISPR/CAS-9 (a gene editing technology) to artificially splice a segment of mRNA into your genetic code, thereby affecting the folding, or “form” of proteins. Different form equates to different function. I enjoyed studying the movement of genetic coding very much in college. I happened to be in school when CRISPR/CAS-9 was first manipulated to artificially splice genes. It was GROUNDBREAKING at the time. For every new technology, there is inherently good aspects, and stunningly evil opportunities. Yes, this vaccine directly splices unnatural mRNA into your coding to alter your protein function. Don’t let a “media” site tell you, do the research.

Billyjoe
Billyjoe

That is a mischaracterization of the science in one key area. It does not “splice unnatural mRNA into your coding”. You need to read some actual science on it, not media sites that interpret the science for you. Easy to see why you came to this erroneous conclusion since you are posting on a right wing board about it.

Mountain Chief
Mountain Chief

Billyjoe thanks for the response,
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006291X20308858

https://phys.org/news/2018-03-crispr-cas9-rna.html

I have read and studied many different articles, as molecular biology was my field of study. The mere fact you turn science into a “left wing vs right wing” dilemma clearly displays your ignorance and lack of logic. But please, enlighten me further how gene splicing works.

Billyjoe
Billyjoe

You are conflating the vaccine with the technology used. If this was your field of study, I wager you are not currently in that field. You’re cherry-picking.

What you are doing is akin to the following. We uses knives to perform surgery. Knives can get rusty and cause tetanus. Surgery will give you tetanus.

Go back to the mountains!

Mountain Chief
Mountain Chief

You are good at hurling insults and not much else. Go back to wherever you crawled out of!
https://bioengineering.stanford.edu/research-impact/prevent-covid-19/new-genetic-method-using-crispr-eliminate-covid-19-virus-genomes

rocketride
rocketride

Crispr/CAS9 cannot splice RNA into DNA molecules. And nothing normally in your body will do so either. In order to do that splicing, the RNA strand would first need to translated (technically ‘reverse-transcripted’) into a DNA strand, which could then, by various means, be inserted into an existing chromosome. Many viruses including Coronaviruses and HIV do this very thing using enzymes called ‘reverse transcriptases’.

Mountain Chief
Mountain Chief

While I never claimed that crispr can splice RNA into DNA, you are correct. But certain crispr/cas9 mechanisms can target, bind to, and splice RNA as opposed to DNA, eg certain species of Campylobacter (https://phys.org/news/2018-03-crispr-cas9-rna.html)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29303478/
I have also posted this link highlighting a pubmed study where certain crispr/cas9 subtype II elements are exhibited manipulating ssRNA.
Isn’t that just nutz? We truly live in a wild time for science.

Cheers

Fred Astaire
Fred Astaire

Complete bullshit.
At least watch enough TED talks to use the terminology correctly.

Mountain Chief
Mountain Chief

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TdBAHexVYzc
Here is the Ted Talk from Jennifer Doudna describing the origins of CRISPR/CAS-9. Very good watch.

https://phys.org/news/2018-03-crispr-cas9-rna.html
Here is an article describing how the same technology can bind to and cleave RNA as well.

Paper Clip
Paper Clip

If that were the case, any country that wanted the USA to look bad (Iran, Russia, China, North Korea, Venezuela) could get one of the hundreds of millions of doses of vaccine being made, show that it contains cas9 enzymes, and cost the USA billions dollars in damages.

Danny
Danny

Any response invoking ANY reliance on WHO should be venerated and held in highest reverence…..right???
The whole problem here is that none of these supposedly respected institutions have given us a drop of credibility. Fauci leads the pack. F#%€ him and all his “Credible “ information.

Paper Clip
Paper Clip

Thanks for helping, Watson.

Bob
Bob

The pharmaceutical companies, WHO, FDA, experts, etc…have been very slowly releasing stories about potential side effects, warnings to those over 80 to not take the vaccine, warning to those with allergic conditions not to take the vaccine, etc. But the media and our government officials are ignoring those stories and continue to push an unproven and untested DNA modifying injection (it’s not a vaccine).

You are rolling the dice if you take the injection. You have ZERO to gain from it, but everything to lose.

Bettingman
Bettingman

Patently false. Here is the risk calculus right now.

100 million people infected, 420 thousand die, another million have severe reactions. So you have about a 1.5% chance of dying or having severe complications.

100 million people have taken the vaccine, and we have reports of dozens of people with allergic reactions. Maybe 1 or 2 deaths so far. So you have about a 0% chance of dying or having severe complications.

Risk calculus says to go with the vaccine at the moment. You could hold out to make sure the vaccine percentages stay the same and hedge your bet a bit.

Chucko
Chucko

“100 million people infected” based on potentially/probably BS pcr results.
I’m just saying that the chances of death or serious complications “may” be much higher than what is bandied about, given the number of potential false positive test results.
Let us all stay safe as best we can and continue living our lives.

rocketride
rocketride

Surprise, surprise, surprise. The day Biden got installed, the WHO and CDC went back to using the same diagnostic criteria for SARS-2 Coronavirus as they’ve been using for every other virus for the past couple of decades– Patients presents with symptoms and has two positive PCR-amplification tests. Also, new guidelines recommend no more than 25 cycles of PCR– 2^25x (2 to the 25th power) amplification– tests in the past year have been going for as many as 2^32x amplification.

Tinkerer
Tinkerer

Your “calculus” is yet another example of fallacious use of statistics Midland misleadingly applied to human populations: It completely ignores the part played by the individual.

Don’t lump the healthier people, who take care of their health with daily vigorous exercise and vitamin D, in with the general sedentary population of the US for overly-simplified views like this.

The immune function is highly dependent on physical activity and vitamin D.

My probabilities of contracting the virus, and/or of severe illness or death, are nowhere near the overall average probabilities. Thank you very much.

Billyjoe
Billyjoe

Tinkerer, I see your point, but your risk is higher than 0% right? The risk calculus holds for all demographics.

In addition, there is the matter of the herd that you don’t seem to care too much about.

Buldog
Buldog

I sent this link to the smartest person I know who is a medical scientist with MD/PhD. He called it pseudoscience.

Tinkerer
Tinkerer

Tell him to dig a little deeper in the article link trail, through Dr. Meryl Nass blog article

https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/pfizer-admitted-vaccine-does-not-prevent-covid-infection-and-other-vaccine-problems-and-how

to this:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160322100714.htm

It appears that virus RNA causing permanent host DNA changes is a well documented phenomenon.

The mRNA covid vaccines use part of the covid RNA, correct?

Billyjoe
Billyjoe

Anyone without an agenda knows this is pseudoscience. It has all the hallmarks. It cites no actual evidence. It is all hypothesis-based. It goes against reproducible scientific consensus.

Tinkerer
Tinkerer

You have to do a little more looking into it.

It is apparently a plausible risk (of long-term problems caused by DNA changes effected by virus mRNA), based on this:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/160322100714.htm

No one quoted in the articles tries to quantify the potential risk. They just say there is a risk, and the vaccine was rushed to mass deployment so there is insufficient data on that risk. All of this is correct.

No one should be coerced to take this vaccine, it is still experimental and people taking it are the lab rats. If you think it is safe, you are free to take it. Good luck.

Billyjoe
Billyjoe

There are lots of potential risks. We don’t care about potential risks. We care about likely risks. You have to quantify the risk or you are fear mongering.

You are potentially at risk of an airplane engine falling on your house. See my point?