J&J Vaccine ‘less effective’ against Delta…

Posted by Kane on July 23, 2021 9:18 am

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Gere Jay Minnick
Gere Jay Minnick

https://denisbider.blogspot.com/2021/07/dr-david-martin-with-reiner-fuellmich.html Here’s a link to the facts about the Covid virus, the supposed vaccine were being lied to about, and the money being made on the sly by all of he main proponents of the jab. Read it for yourself. I just did and its a real eye opener.

Rdt@rdtmdr.co.if
Rdt@rdtmdr.co.if

Dr. Dave Martin states that the delta variant does not exist except as another fragment of the existing virus in the nih computers.

Jdbell
Jdbell

No evidence of this!!! 1 question! Why is the media and this government so hell bent on you/me getting a mrna Vax? Really is odd to me. Normally when someone pushes you so much into something it’s usually not in your best interest?

Fred Flintstone
Fred Flintstone

Delta is contagious, not lethal

AI8UT
AI8UT

With 93% of the Covid-19 in the US being the Delta Variant and those who have accepted the jab dying at a higher rate than any Flu Vaccine for any given season, I do not quite understand your “not lethal” reference.
Especially among the young who did not nor ever had preexisting conditions.

Yo
Yo

A couple of weeks ago they were reporting it was more effective.

OH Deplorable
OH Deplorable

Who paid for the study, the other two vaccine manufacturers?

AI8UT
AI8UT

Makes zero difference. This CCP Virus has been a calamity of so-called science based misinformation released since it’s conception (wear a mask, masks don’t help, 6’ social distancing, wear multiple masks, etc.). There are more than two manufacturers of the CCP Virus vaccinations per the newly defined “vaccine” to include “genes” (therapy) as well as retaining live and dead virus cells in the definition.
Until the FDA approves these experimental gene vaccines and legal immunity is lifted, they may as well “jab” those doses of the vaccine in their own arms because they are not “jabbing” mine.

Texan
Texan

The whole thing is a scam. It’s the flu. They lie and lie and lie some more. I don’t believe ANY government servant period!

Oyoscompoyos
Oyoscompoyos

Of course, the j and j vaxx isn’t gene rx so of course they claim it’s less effective.

WindUpRubberFinger(dot)com
WindUpRubberFinger(dot)com

None of these medicines* are effective in the way they are claiming.

As for misinformation, the government’s position on SARS-CoV-2 has changed so many times that they are no longer a credible source of information –if they ever were.

I don’t believe the government was credible on any of this. Fauci was their main source of information, and he’s lied all along, and Fauci has now lied before congress.

Nothing Fauci says now, or did say is credible, because he must lie, or implicate himself in all of this.

This is a total 💩 show from start to end!

Bill K
Bill K

Fauci is a Chinese asset. He is directly responsible for giving China this biological weapon, just the same as Julius Rosenberg gave Russia the atomic bomb.

j
j
Jacqueline
Jacqueline

I took the chance and got the J&J vaccine due to my preexisting heart conditions and the fact that Trump supported and worked on that one. Time will tell whether I was the biggest idiot on the planet or things turn out okay. As someone that works in pharmaceuticals there was no way in hell I was getting any of the mRNA vaccines. Adenovirus vector vaccines have been around for 10+ years without significant issue and there is at least some long term safety record, whereas the mRNA is unchartered territory. EVERY new drug or vaccine has some type of issue and long term side effect. Some are bad enough to get pulled from market. At the very least by 10 years time you will see an explosion in autoimmune conditions from the mRNA vaccines if not worse. When I was researching them I specifically ruled out mRNA and Pfizer due to all the heart side effects that are reported. With my preexisting condition Pfizer probably would have killed me. It’s absolute negligence that the media and doctors refuse to fully inform their patients of the risk, acting like it has no side effects and people that have a reaction are making it up, seeking attention, or are conspiracy theorists.

2 recent peer reviewed studies (gold standard) that came out about a month ago say the exact opposite of this not peer reviewed, not studied in the real world on patients, laboratory completed study that claims Janssen is not effective against delta. The other two studies actually state neutralization for delta with the Janssen vaccine is better than for the alpha and beta strains and protection goes up over time, the exact opposite of what’s happening with moderna and Pfizer. I work for the company running Pfizer’s covid trials and Pfizer is known to be notoriously lax and money hungry in the pharma world. They are known to try to cut corners and they are regarded as arrogant in the pharma world. J&J plays much more by the book. I wonder if studies like these and the media protection given to mRNA is trying to discredit the Janssen vaccine to make a bigger payday? Trying to convince more people to get mRNA for more nefarious purposes? Time will tell.

For anyone that’s interested check out RW Malone on Twitter. He is the inventor of mRNA technology and even he is very reluctant and suspicious of the mRNA vaccines. Some of his statements actually lend support to the new world order “conspiracy theory”.

rob
rob

Got J&J as well. Agree with your concerns for the mRNA-based vaccines. Not that J&J is perfect – a number of deaths in VAERS for it, as well.

EddieGin
EddieGin

We are in a *Spiritual war, it’s all about *Sterilizing the state of Israel, the world is just collateral damage & the local Governments ate it up with money from BIG Pharm & BIG Box stores. Like I said a war.

Jack
Jack

I also got the J&J vaccine on June 8. The thing is, the J&J vaccine was tested against the variants in it’s clinical trial (in South Africa and Brazil) and it had an efficacy in the 60’s. The mRNA vaccines were not tested against variants in their trials which occurred earlier.
I am mentally preparing myself for having to get a booster, but I really do not want to mix the vaccine technologies by getting an mRNA booster.

Vengeance Of The Orange Man®
Vengeance Of The Orange Man®

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WhereIsWaldo
WhereIsWaldo

Query:
If, as the CDC definition says:
“Vaccines contain the same germs that cause disease. (For example, measles vaccine contains measles virus, and Hib vaccine contains Hib bacteria.) But they have been either killed or weakened to the point that they don’t make you sick. Some vaccines contain only a part of the disease germ.

A vaccine stimulates your immune system to produce antibodies, exactly like it would if you were exposed to the disease. After getting vaccinated, you develop immunity to that disease, without having to get the disease first.

This is what makes vaccines such powerful medicine. Unlike most medicines, which treat or cure diseases, vaccines prevent them.”

Then why isn’t anyone developing an actual vaccine…one that uses “the same germs that cause the disease”?
And why are these jabs not “preventing the disease”, but only, possibly, diminishing some of the symptoms? At least according to Fauci, who still wants everyone to follow the pre-vax mandates because the, and I quote: “vaccines don’t prevent the disease, you can still get it even when you’re vaccinated”?

Lots of intentional disinformation going around.
And all of it, apparently coming from the left, intent on mandating and controlling, but not providing ACTUAL, BY THE BOOK, VACCINES.

WebUser
WebUser

Excellent post WIW!

NOVAVAX
NOVAVAX

Check out Novavax.

rob
rob

I think they need to update their definition to say no vaccine is 100% effective. At this site:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/work.html

They say ‘While COVID-19 vaccines are working well, some people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 will still get sick, because no vaccines are 100% effective.’

LLOYD
LLOYD

The wheels have came off on the plandemic. The corrupt just want more money.

T
T

Pfizer is just as ineffective, and that’s with two doses. It’s all garbage.

Texan
Texan

Oh, it’s effective at giving disease just not preventing it!

PJ
PJ

There is no such F#ckng thing as the Delta Variant…….BIG LIE # 1001!

MTK
MTK

The delta came from India.

Bennett
Bennett

And now this BS….” Texas hospital reports its 1st case of lambda COVID-19 variant…”

Joe Patriot
Joe Patriot

Joe Patriot
Joe Patriot

Taxman100
Taxman100

Another move that could never be made today. The Japanese guy dressed as an Indian would literally get the producer of the movie arrested

JP
JP

You could never make Blazing Saddles today. Network TV would never show Dean Martin celebrity roasts

Retired Patriot
Retired Patriot

From now on when the people get out of line all that’s needed is a new medical emergency. Precedant has been set. Hypocondriacs, MSM believers and go along to get along American’s have destroyed our Republic. Critical thinking, thirst for knowledge and curiosity has been lost.

WhereIsWaldo
WhereIsWaldo

And don’t forget, there’s a “gamma” variant as well.
Oh, my, the variants, the variants are gonna getcha, don’t cha know?

Texan
Texan

Jenkins is power hungry…Non-Texans…Jenkins is a county commissioner in Dallas couny. He is a Constitution breaking criminal. Violating his oath.

AI8UT
AI8UT

ALL Experimental Gene Vaccines developed for the Alpha Variant and administered are ineffective for the Delta Variant.
Case in point: Texas Democrats who fled to Washington DC to circumvent legislative voting are a prime example.
Question arises… Are those like myself still less likely to get the Delta Variant because we have Alpha antibodies?
My doctor said when ask the same question… “you are fine, do not get the jab” and recommended not getting the Flu vaccine until further notice.

Texan
Texan

It’s a scam. The vaccine is killing and maiming many more that the corona flu virus is. Dig!

MitziG219
MitziG219

It’s all about $$$$ and Pfizer. And we know who is invested. Notice you hear Jack about moderna. They’ve already been neutralized. And Pfizer is doing crap because this is the flu

Stu
Stu

Actually the J&J guy at work, was the ONLY ONE to not get sick at work this last wave we had. The D was brought in by Pfizer vax guy and the Pfizer vax people got the sickest. I got the sniffles as I am unvaxxed.

Sun King
Sun King

Powers that be have to destroy JNJ because it does not use modified RNA.

They put a halt, early on, due to a small number of blood clots in JNJ recipients.

Many Pfizer recipients have had myocarditis or pericarditis. No halt to Pfizer.

Just watch the actions and ignore the words.

Dylan
Dylan

J&J are also not profiting off their jab whereas Pfizer and Moderna are profiting immensely. It may not be MRNA but it is a DNA jab which is in some ways actually worse.

T
T

Pfizer and Moderna also cause bloodclots, but they don’t like airing that.

Texan
Texan

J&J jab causes severe blood clotting.

NoWayJose
NoWayJose

Not for anyone that got the J&J vaccine in our area and it was a significant number.

Joe
Joe

Aren’t Democrats for the “right to die?”

Then why are they worried about the unvaccinated?

If they don’t want to die from Covid, get the vaccine.

My body my choice.

Sun King
Sun King

No one has a right to die unless they say it’s OK, or help the dying occur.

That’s totalitarianism.

Kanklenesses
Kanklenesses

Your logic is no good here.

Texan
Texan

Kanklenesses, Why?

Kanklenesses.
Kanklenesses.

(Too) subtle irony.

WindUpRubberFinger(dot)com
WindUpRubberFinger(dot)com

You have the right to die when it’s convenient for your rulers.

Oh, and it’s by their method of choosing.

– sincerely The Globalists

Hehe62
Hehe62

I have a question… if we haven’t isolated the “virus” how does anyone know there is a variant to said “virus”
Has there been an isolation of this “variant” to see the difference?
I feel like I’m missing something or is this just a media driven BS play in words.
As far as I know when we do the swabs in clinic I have yet to get back SARs COV 2 “alpha, beta, Charlie delta gamma….etc” variant derivation
I just get back POS or NEG

Sun King
Sun King

Actually, it is all a POS.

AI8UT
AI8UT

You’re not missing a thing and it is nice to know a poster is asking questions rather than simply taking the government’s word for what they should do and how to conduct their life.
The better question to ask is “What is about the now prominent Delta Variant and is the vaccine the federal government promoting effective for this variant?”. The answer to that question is absolutely not. You can
expect a deer in headlights look and responses interlaced with or major usage of the word “Uh…”.
For those who have opted for the jab, May God Be With You And Watch Over You. Same goes for those who are going to be task going door-to-door inquiring and promoting the jab no matter what Dementia Xiden has said but probably does not remember.
A good source for the CCP Virus and variant cases is: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Variants&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=North+America~South+America~Africa~European+Union~GBR~Asia~AUS~USA~CHN
The Delta Variant is here, the vaccine was developed using the Alpha Variant and it is now publicly known the Delta Variant nose thumbs the original vaccine. The term “breakthrough virus” is a complete lie. The Delta Variant didn’t have to breakthrough anything except the lies being perpetuated on the American People some of whom have swallowed the experimental gene vaccine bait hook, line and sinker. All you have to do is read up on similar ssRNA virus replication to know that variants are a given being as though ssRNA does not have the duplication checks and balances of dsRNA or DNA. The reoccurring 4 major Flu viruses (A, B, C & D) are a perfect example. Speaking of which, look at the 2020-2021 Flu stats… The Flu has been eradicated! 😂

Texan
Texan

AI8UT It’s all a scam. A patented scam.

mar
mar

variant is only 0.3% off from the original, not enough to make any difference
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/07/20/covid-vaccine-drives-mutations.aspx

ChuckNV
ChuckNV

We had the J&J vaccine the first day it was available. Our daughter works in a hospital and she told us that they were calling codes all day long to the vaccination room where the hospital was administering the two shot vaccine, so there’s no way we’d ever get those.

Kyle Reese
Kyle Reese

Unfortunately I’m a healthcare professional and I know the mandate is coming. I work in a hospital. If I have to get it I will likely go J&J since it uses an adenovirus vector and is more similar to traditional vaccines. I do not want anywhere near the mRNA vaccines. If I had my student loans paid off and a little more debt gone I’d be looking to get out of healthcare. I consider myself a “prepper” and I’m working toward financial independence but have a long way to go. I’m better off than most thankfully but they have me by the balls on this. I guess I’ll end up rolling the dice with J&J. This is nothing less than tyranny. They aren’t threatening us with guns to the head but certainly threatening our jobs and livelihood. “Resistance to Tyranny” by Joseph P. Martino should be mandatory reading for everyone.

Mixerman
Mixerman

There is some hope in the Novax vaccine being safer – not available yet…
https://www.verywellhealth.com/novavax-vaccine-side-effects-5192068

T
T

How much do you make? There’s a lot of medical manufacturing that pays up to $25. I was working for GE Health for a little bit making about that. It’s decent money and so easy a monkey could do it. There’s other options out there, man.

AI8UT
AI8UT

Don’t roll the dice. That means you are taking a huge chance with your life and/or well being at stake.
I personally can’t wait for the vaccine police to arrive at my property. It is not going to be pretty.

Texan
Texan

Kyle Reese
Kyle Reese, you are being a fool if you get any of these jabs. NO JOB IS WORTH IT. Do something else (natural medicine) and live a fruitful life! Covid Vaccine Injuries
http://www.TheEmpoweror.com
https://t.me/covidvaccineinjuries

Kris
Kris

I opted for the J&J too.Next shoe to drop is they will declare you are not vaccinated if you got that one.

T
T

Oh, absolutely. They’re going to make everyone get either Moderna or Pfizer. Guarantee it.

Texan
Texan

Not me or mine. They get the lead first.

Jacqueline
Jacqueline

I’m 100% waiting for this or for us to be declared unfit although vaccinated if we don’t get a second shot.

Yo
Yo

I then have a decision to make a out my work. I get the sense the media is pushing against J&J. I got it because it was not an mRNA vaccine.

J2D2
J2D2
Texan
Texan

Jab mandates are unconstitutional and they can expect the 2A if they try.

Jake
Jake

WHO agenda is mRNA only. Thats why J&J is the first vaccine in history to be attacked by the media.

WindUpRubberFinger(dot)com
WindUpRubberFinger(dot)com

That is correct sir!

Winston Smith
Winston Smith

Enough.

Our right to not permanently genetically modify ourselves is non-negotiable.

http://www.novaxxnation.com

Bruce
Bruce

Show us DATA! They claim there are statistics of vaccinated people testing positive, whatever THAT means. What test?, actually sick with symptoms?, hospitalized?, deaths????? SHOW US THE NUMBERS for each vaccine!

Texan
Texan

They LIE, what part of that do you not get?Covid Vaccine Injuries
http://www.TheEmpoweror.com
https://t.me/covidvaccineinjuries

constantvigil
constantvigil

In Israel 50% of new cases are in the vaccinated because the vaccine is not protecting people from the delta variant…Currently in this country, 50% of virus is the delta variant, 20% of new cases are in the vaccinated which will go up – that is because the vaccine doesn’t work against the delta strain !

Jake
Jake

It doesn’t work on anything

AI8UT
AI8UT

😉👍

AI8UT
AI8UT

The USA virus cases are 93% Delta variant,
Australia 90% Delta variant and
Great Britain 99% Delta variant.
Most other countries do not categorize the CCP Virus by “variants”.

Source: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Variants&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=North+America~South+America~Africa~European+Union~GBR~Asia~AUS~USA~CHN

Texan
Texan

AI8UT…they lie! Stop quoting liars!

Texan
Texan

It doesn’t work at all! The only people I’ve seen taken out on streachers are those who got the jab.

J2D2
J2D2

If the vaccines really worked, they be so expensive, most people couldn’t afford them.

T
T

They’re planning on it for their boosters. Right now they’re going for $20 a pop but Pfizer wants them to be $150+

D J
D J

The J&J isn’t mRNA, and we have seen numerous attacks on it. Hmmm?

Jake
Jake

Yup. It’s also one & done.

Strayhorse
Strayhorse

C;mon why are we still talking about these experimental injections as if they are making the world a better place when 45,000 Americans are factually DEAD just 3 days after getting the jab? NOBODY BELIEVES SCIENCE ANYMORE – they lied and people died!

NotGonnaGetBetter
NotGonnaGetBetter

I have no idea if this guy actually got the shot, but one of many “unexpected” deaths of healthy 30-somethings I have become aware of the past few months. This was a fellow employee and this a post they put on the company social page with a link to a Go Fund Me fundraiser.

“This fundraiser is in honor of ___ ______ life and in support of his wife and daughters. He was a loving husband, dedicated father, and loyal friend, passed away unexpectedly on July 13, 2021. We would like to help the family host a ceremony in his memory that honors the incredible life he led.”

But made me think, as time goes on and more and more people are killed by the shot “unexpectedly”, we are going to see more and more Go Fund Me pages.

Texan
Texan
AI8UT
AI8UT

Thanks to the government, “science” is dead.

Mr.Mike's Ghost
Mr.Mike's Ghost

Berenson retweeted a dr who claims the VAERS reports might be “false reports by dishonest people with bad motives”.

Maybe people are faking their own deaths from the vax and hiding out in Argentina, but remember, we are $Conspiracy Theorists”.

AI8UT
AI8UT

More than likely the death is being reported as non-COVID-19 related.
Oh, the person got the jab but died of:
👉 blood clots.
👉 heart attack.
👉 organ failure.
👉 etc.
at one point last month, more people died as a result of the jab than the CCP virus AND more people caught the virus that were vaccinated than those who were unvaccinated causing the blame to be targeted on the unvaccinated (nobody can make that 💩 up).

DWray
DWray

“The unvaccinated are killing us!”

AI8UT
AI8UT

Don’t you trust the government when they told you if you’re vaccinated you will not die but you will still have to wear a mask and observe social distancing while the unvaccinated have to do the same or weren’t you able to “connect the dots” of those messages?
Have you looked at the CCP Virus case statistics recently… more jabbed getting the delta variant than unjabbed?
In the US, the Delta variant represents 93% of new CCP Virus cases yet you have the intestinal fortitude to blame the unvaccinated for a virus gene vaccine that was developed for another early on virus variant which is ineffective for the Delta as well as any newer variant of the virus.
Now are you able to connect the dots?

Texan
Texan

AI8UT…he is being sarcastic.

Texan
Texan

😂🤣😂

RM
RM

Just get infected with Delta, which is benign, and you’ll be protected against all SARS viruses.

harley00
harley00

Less is a big word. It could include not at all. How much less?

BigBuck
BigBuck

What if the “delta” variant identifies itself as a beta?

AI8UT
AI8UT

You have an excellent point… Virus Diversity. 😂

Lone Wolf McWayne
Lone Wolf McWayne

The Pandemic of the un-vaccinated!

Town Manager Alex Morse told ABC News on Monday that the “vast majority” of the COVID-19 cases associated with the town’s outbreak are among vaccinated individuals.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/cape-cod-covid-19-cluster-grows-130-infected/story?id=78956381

AI8UT
AI8UT

Just as the vaccinated Texas Democrats who flew from Texas to Washington DC and spread their health.
BTW – has anyone heard from Maxine Waters since her unexpected hospital appointment last week? 😂

chim
chim

Ok, that settles it. I’m waiting for a steroid-based approach to get full FDA non-emergency approval. I don’t care how long it takes to develop.

J&J’s adenovirus approach was the only one I was previously willing to follow. I’m not taking the mRNA shots–frankly, no one under 65 should be.

J West
J West

I’m 78 and I’m not taking any of it. I think it’s a bigger risk than the flu. If you are healthy with a good diet, not over-weight, keep vitamin D3 levels high .. you can survive this thing. If you can get hold of Ivermectin so much the better.

This Chinese flu is not all that deadly except for those who are old and have other risk factors, kids have nothing to fear, nor do most young adults on up to middle-agers. No vaccine required, really. It’s doesn’t appear to protect anyway, many have been vaxed and still contracting Covid and passing it along.

There is something nefarious behind this entire pandemic. It is contrived and I believe we have been attacked by China …. Trump would not have let them get away with it. Biden is paid off.

ray 454r
ray 454r

FULL INTERVIEW: Dr David Martin with Reiner Fuellmich
https://www.brighteon.com/a569c7c9-9572-47ed-ba3c-130b0c13aa55

Follow the money.

Kanklenesses
Kanklenesses

Mind blown. Concise and devastating info.

FloPet
FloPet

Wow—thanks for linking this. Intense facts here!

Texan
Texan

J West…63 and agree 100%!! https://t.me/covidvaccineinjuries

AI8UT
AI8UT

Over 70 and not doing either.
Stock up on over the counter vitamin C, D3 & Zinc and get your rear end out in the sun every day.