Clarence Thomas with the verbal smackdown…

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Koooook
Koooook

THANK JUSTICE THOMAS.
A TRUE AMERICAN HERO!!!
😁💓👍🇺🇸

Dude
Dude

That all black people do not worship Clarence Thomas baffles me. I worship him, and I’m white. I would lay down my life for him. He’s a national treasure.

Pat Mock
Pat Mock

I am surprised that we have just this dissenter. Bravo to Clarence Thomas.

Pcj
Pcj

Alito, and Gorsuch also dissented with Thomas, but unfortunately they needed just one more Supreme to review the complaints.

johnny99
johnny99

Cowards like Kavanaugh, Barrett, Gorsuch and Roberts secured their seats through FRAUD: They lied to the president, the Senate and the American people when they swore to do their jobs without fear or favor.

Jonathan Galt
Jonathan Galt

What are they Supreme Court Justices for if not to hear Constitutional concerns? Our Constitution GUARANTEES us a RIGHT to a “Republican form of government.” Such a thing is not possible unless you can prove that elections are fair and honest and conducted according to the rule of law – and this election was none of those things.

johnny99
johnny99

Bingo! They are all as useless as t!ts on a bull.

Matt smith
Matt smith

It’s all just corrupt theatre…..ask JFK

gruff
gruff

i’d like to know who recommended kavanaugh and barrett to trump. they are both azholes.

Bill K
Bill K

Both have too much Jesuit influence. The Jesuits are the liberal branch of the RC Church, one foot in Existentialism and the other on a banana peel. Martin Luther was SO right when he posited that you could not be a theologian until you got rid of Aristotle.

David Hill
David Hill

Beware the Jesuits.

johnny99
johnny99

Blame the discredited Federalist Society for that.

big daddy
big daddy

Pence

SaraHomemaker
SaraHomemaker

Justice Thomas has become one of my favorite justices. Even in my youth when I disagreed or did not understand. You’d have to be a human paraquat- in not giving due respect.

Kavanaugh And Barret. Under the Thumb of the Chief Justice Roberts or being blackmailed at a lethal point by some one else.

Does ACB and Kavanaugh have a young family?

Lou
Lou

Would someone enlighten me to Kavanaugh and Barrett’s decision? I’m surprise, sickened and angry! Thank you!

Hammer
Hammer

They didn’t join Thomas in his dissent, What are you looking for, the individual reasons for their decisions? Good luck with that. My opinion only but this is so polarizing that the only way its this one sided is if the younger jurists were threatened in some way. Sorry…I said it!

herdzcatz
herdzcatz

I am certain both were threatened. They need to go public with the threats and demand/secure protection for their families. This is beyond the pale.

johnny99
johnny99

They were threatened, for starters, by that dirtball Schumer. What a piece of garbage he is!

big daddy
big daddy

They weren’t threatened.They were always bastards.

Chieftain
Chieftain

cowardice? They took the easy way out.

John Phoenix
John Phoenix

Justice Thomas is spot on, as always, which is why the left despises this man. He cuts through their lies and BS and they know it, whether they want to admit it or not.

Lou
Lou

Justice Thomas: a man of integrity, principles, uncommon sense and courage! He is spot on in his dissent. Both before and after the election the SC had a genuine opportunity to settle the question of jurisdiction over states voter laws and regulations; policies. It blew blew both opportunities ignominiously! To date the SC has a chronic history of dodging and ignoring, even manipulating real and urgent issues; they rarely fail to disappoint, to trip over their own silly robes to try and appear wise and impartial. The SC has earned “the jaundiced eye”. We know emphatically that in all state constitutions that power is granted solely to the state legislators. We know the many states where this was ignored, denied and trampled upon. Thomas was spot on. Either address the issue prior to or after the election but, address it, it’s a real, urgent and trying issue! ignoring it won’t make it go away. It will only inflame the issue further, and discourage any and all confidence in future elections. This intolerable situation is also potentially dangerous; in today’s political climate the ineptitude of the courts could green light one party despotism; we are on the brink! But, not to worry. A civil war will put an end to that stupidity! Also, this situation demands that the state legislatures assert their rights! Kicking the can all over the courts for analyses and decisions is an immature avoidance of their responsibilities. They must “grow up”! Constituents must demand that their legislators grab their family jewels, grow a spine and do their jobs, for which they chose to run for, won the votes and are being PAID to do! As it stands now, these legislators are pathetically impotent, and taxpayers are wasting their money on useless empty suits, and empty heads! Finally, Justices Thomas and Alito must be recognized and lauded for their actions, KUDOS! But, they too have the bully pulpit. They to have a responsibility to insure the protection of our Constitutional Laws, Rights, etc. The black robes of the SC do not exempt them from fulfilling their oath of office. Yes, they must remain stoically impartial and apolitical but, above all else they must be absolutely true to our Constitution! The justices are intelligent people. They can manage to walk and chew gum at the same time, I’m sure. They must remember, they are responsible to us, the American People!!!

Peggy R
Peggy R

In order to avoid looking political the SC formula is give the liberals everything they want and give the conservatives nothing.

David Hill
David Hill

And this is why Biden savaged Justice Thomas during his confirmation in the early 90’s.

Philpott Rider
Philpott Rider

I remember when John Roberts suffered a weird seizure, supposedly foaming at the mouth. Very little press attention to it.

Now as time goes by I truly believe someone has him in his pocket. You could not stick any rule of logic next to his decisions and see it hold up. So when you cant see any logic in something money is controlling the situation.

In hindsight I think that was a warning shot – maybe he was straying off the plantation at the beginning of his term.

So zero surprise he does not wade into issues that would loosen the grip on Dems power.

Warrior of the Light
Warrior of the Light

He is a pedo and he is owned by blackmail. If you go against the cabal and you have nothing to be blackmailed for they plant child porn on you and threaten you that way.

Pied Piper
Pied Piper

I about got my butt handed to me over a critical comment I made about Amy Coney Barrett back during her confirmation. Talk about being in the minority, It was a minority of one. All I really was suggesting was caution as I recall. Times do change.

I have always wondered if if bothers a guy like John Roberts Robama that a hundred million people think he’s an idiot. I guess not but I don’t comprehend why. If I got 5 up votes and 25 down votes on a c f p comment I posted, I would have to at least think about my point. Apparently not so with SCOTUS justices. To be that sure yours doesn’t stink must be a stunning accomplishment.

In fairness, fear that the democrats will brutally murder everyone in your family, including illgotten children, is likey a driving factor in their decisions. We may well be seeing that play out now in real time a la ACB.

Mrs. Sunshine
Mrs. Sunshine

“In fairness, fear that the democrats will brutally murder everyone in your family, including ill gotten children, is likely a driving factor in their decisions. We may well be seeing that play out now in real time a la ACB.”

Exactly the problem. Not corrected until they fear WE THE PEOPLE more. The weak majority population overwhelms the fewer brave.

LoralieC
LoralieC

Sounds like a job for Project Veritas or similar. If this is the motivation for lack of action, someone must have the goods and could start leaking. The problem is, what happens if a Justice steps down in shame only to be replaced by a Biden pick?

Lou
Lou

I agree! Politicians are notorious for murdering their opposition, their loose ends, etc. Remember Seth Rich, Linda Fuddy, the three gay men of the choir of Obummers church. I could go on….

FrankRizzo
FrankRizzo

Dissenting does very little to solving the problem only stating the obvious.

DeltaRanger
DeltaRanger

“That decision to rewrite the rules seems to have affected too few ballots to change the outcome,” Thomas wrote. “But that may well not be the case in the future.” – Dissent by Justice Thomas

I think this is the most important part of Justice Thomas Dissent that raises the Alarm the Republic has Failed and dissolved into nothing more than a Police State.

Here we have a Sitting Justice in his Dissent clearly say there was Voter Fraud in the November 3, 2020 Election, but not enough to affect the Outcome of the Election, but how does he or anyone definitively know it would not change the outcome since there was never a full investigation?

I have mentioned this before and far to many including Pro-American Media outlets have been blinded by the Smoke and Mirrors and missed this Important Narrative from Democrats, RINOS, and the Democrat Ministry of Media and Propaganda:

there was Election Fraud in the November 3, 2020 Election, but not enough to affect the Outcome of the Election

This is how they are basing their Rulings on Dismissing all the Lawsuits.

The US Supreme Court has failed the Citizens, the US Constitution, and the Republic for which each Justice has sworn an Oath to Protect and have thus thrust this once great nation into becoming just another 3rd world schiff-hole Police State.

Spike
Spike

For Pete’s sake, this is NOT “how they are basing their Rulings,” as Justice Thomas mentioned this in an opinion that the Court SHOULD hear the case!

No Justice wrote to explain the decision to deny cert, so we don’t know what the “basis” is.

Institutions have not “failed” if we don’t win every case.

Non
Non

This was not “not winning,” this was not even hearing the case or any evidence. Not the same at all.

Peggy R
Peggy R

It must feel lonely & frustrating being Clarence Thomas & Samuel Alito, the only true conservatives on the court.

Pied Piper
Pied Piper

I know nothing about these two men’s personal lives but I do wonder if they have the least to lose to the vicious, murdering mob we call the democrat party. Too bad we can’t discuss it with Scalia.

ricky65
ricky65

God bless Clarence Thomas. He is so right about this. The cowardice of SCOTUS and especially John Roberts is appalling.
Until this festering wound is lanced there will be no peace.
There has to be an accounting for the voting laws that were clearly broken before the election which affected the entire presidential race.
If the Supreme Court is more concerned about the social consequences of the law rather than whether the laws are constitutional then the people have no legal recourse.
There will be no end of this until there is a legal accounting. Dancing around the issue with a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo about ‘standing’ and ‘moot issue’ is a dereliction of duty. This is not going away anytime soon.

PaulRevere
PaulRevere

evil flourishes when ALL ‘good men’ do NOTHING

SRM
SRM

SO DO SOMETHING!

Kevin
Kevin

What? He is only one man.

wigit
wigit

They all belong to the Pilgrim society. look it up. Even Roberts.

Oldnarc
Oldnarc

Thomas a true Conservative and way smarter than the
Compromised Roberts. Love to see what he he is so afraid of must be something truly horrific Epstein like I’d bet

BenAsleep
BenAsleep

Thank you, Justice Thomas, for being a voice of reason and reality!

Marc Jansen
Marc Jansen

Funny how we racist White privileged conservatives hold him in high regard yet the all inclusive left berates him as an Uncle Tom! But trying to understand them is a complete waste of time except that which motivates their actions! Kinda like the gay community not allowing transgenders into their meeting or whatever! Man, liberal stupidity, intolerance gives us all headaches regardless the issues!

Imaya Nyghtmare 1982
Imaya Nyghtmare 1982

When the “tolerant” become the intolerant, they are worse than anything before them.

Missouri Citizen
Missouri Citizen

Justice Clarence Thomas is a great patriot and a great legal mind. There are few people that I admire as much as I admire him.

clem
clem

Scalia was always my number 1 with Thomas just a short step behind.

PaulRevere
PaulRevere

so many questions regarding his death

Marc Jansen
Marc Jansen

The left is just practicing Stalins old standard: the bigger the lie the more likely the sheep will believe it! This Election was stolen outright, and it wasn’t even close! But here we are on the dawn of a new socialist America based on race, sex, age, and income identity! In other words what the left has always strived for, a post Constitutional America! What better an institution to lead the charge then the Supreme Court? Again, this election was so fraudulent that it’s a disgrace to call it one! If it was so stellar, and these kangaroo courts think all 81 cases, thousands of affidavits, film, mathematical impossibilities, and yes constitutional issues are a complete waste of time then how could it be that just one Michigan voting district just removed over 175,000 off its voter roll?
But mistakes happen? Maybe, but only one way, in the millions?
Again: the governments numbers! 214 million registered voters:66% voted: leaving 141,250,000 total possible: Trump over 74 honest red/white/and blue votes vs China Joe’s over 80 million! So? Well that’s over 154 million votes out of 141 million possible or over 13 million impossible votes people! But what the hell, nothing to investigate here!!!
Every indicator, every election deciding standard went Trump! Yet sleepy Joe won? How!
Joe won a record low 17% of USA counties, lost all three bellwether states (Ohio, Iowa, Florida), missed all five demographic percentage levels that no democrat has ever won election if they missed one? As trump gained ground in every one! Then theirs the famous percentage vote! Not to mention identical vote dumps helping guess who.
Conclusion: This court refused to hear cases in order to AVOID dealing with FACTS! What a Pathetic display of corruption, and Cowardness!

Marc Jansen
Marc Jansen

Forgot this statistic! In the five contested states cities like Milwaukee, Joe outdid Obama by over 20%! BS!!! If you saw the excitement, turnout enthusiasm by these communities, their support, you would absolutely have no belief in this result! Again, BS!!!

Joe
Joe

Best Justice on the court, hands down!

Jedi
Jedi

Patrick Byrne’s (former CEO of Overstock) deepcapture took me a week to read but spells out election ‘irregularities’. If it read fraud the domestic terrorism police would be at my door. Also, Lee Smith’s The Thirty Tyrants lays out ‘1 foot in China & other in the U.S.’ betrayal is from within. Both facts & evidence based – incredibly smart super patriots. Both are MUST reads – ‘Grains of truth in a Beach of Lies’ not sure who said that but love it!

CarolynHH
CarolynHH

Just this introduction to Patrick Bryne’s extensive report shows unequivocally how an election (or more to the point, our 2020 election) could have easily been brought into dispute. Mr. Byrne provides so many pieces of evidence that one is stunned by the sheer volume of proof. That all branches of our government have declined to act on this evidence is sad proof that this great nation has become compromised.

Thank you to Jedi for reminding us that ‘we the people’ are still watchful, active, and refuse this coup from within. Below is a link to the Introduction to one of the pieces that Jedi cites. Please allow yourselves a few moments to read and digest.

https://www.deepcapture.com/2021/01/how-djt-lost-the-white-house-introduction-why-i-was-involved-before-november-3-and-what-i-learned-by-doing-so/

19 Corvids
19 Corvids

Heroic pic of him smiling over a grimmace from the big one she had just cut loose, which deflated her.

Chad C
Chad C

It’s great to read that there is still some leVel of integrity on the SCOTUS. i would like to hear from Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett on how they arrived at their decisions.

Rhinobuster
Rhinobuster

Brevity is the hallmark of genius.

Justa Teksun
Justa Teksun

A more accurate and succinct message could not be written.

Robert Booey
Robert Booey

The leftists threatened to pack the court, and it worked. Let’s say you’ve got a prestigious and protected job – it isn’t going away. Suddenly, the board tells you that they’re considering adding five new colleagues to your department, and they have a completely different view than you about how to get things done. You’ll be outnumbered in decision-making power with people who strongly disagree with you. Your work environment will go from cushy to downright unpleasant. The catch, the board tells you, is that they want to see how your decisions go over the next 12 months. Your incentives have now switched from serving your customers to doing what makes your board members happy. In this sense, in ruling the republican nominated justices by fear, the left has already packed the court.

Notre Dame was once a Catholic and conservative institution, but that was a long time ago. That ACB had come from a place that had turned so far left raised many red flags, but we were assured she was a strong conservative. This and the previous Texas decision shows she is neither a conservative nor a person of strong character, courage or integrity. If the court takes up a case on abortion, do not be surprised if she joins Roberts and betrays all that is right.

Flyonthewall
Flyonthewall

Seems the new justices are shrewdly holding out until after the midterms… if they rule on elections now, the left leaning congress will pack the court, it the left loses control in the mid-terms, then they can rule without peril.

tojak
tojak

Nope… they are just a bunch of liberal “ringers”… No need to make excuses for them.

xdrum716@gmail.com
xdrum716@gmail.com

Left leaning you mean the communist

Trumpuup
Trumpuup

exactly corrupted communist who need to be hanged from the tallest of trees along with every other elected leader for letting this farce continue…

19 Corvids
19 Corvids

But there are not enough tall trees due to global warming.

Ralph C
Ralph C

We have the trees but sadly not the patriots to use them. Look at this thread of whiners cheering for “someone else” to fix things!

Stablepar
Stablepar

The only difference between a liberal and a communist is the liberal doesn’t know he is a communist

19 Corvids
19 Corvids

Had they ruled, then there would be no problem.

Marc Jansen
Marc Jansen

Roosevelt tried to do this in the 1930s but the court itself ruled his action unconstitutional if memory serves me right! However, with this gang of fools? Anything’s possible!

Ralph C
Ralph C

The Supreme Court is NOT a shrewd institution, it is the Supreme Court of the land and is guided ONLY by the US Constitution. For it to IGNORE that duty and the US Constitution is not shrewd but the very destruction of America and the court itself. This will end badly and possibly bloody, not by mid-terms or any election now.

Chad C
Chad C

The current docket is so significant that they should not delay. Their decision could impact what administration is in the White House, and who controls the Senate. Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett need to explain their “decisions”.

Wyatt Pinkerton
Wyatt Pinkerton

Wow is that what fidelity to the Constitution looks like?… worry about consequences down the road from people who don’t like your politics, and then adjust your ruling, accordingly.
Not really being a conservative judge is it?

President Donald J. Trumper
President Donald J. Trumper

HERO. JUDICIAL HERO. THANK YOU, SIR.

Maxwell
Maxwell

Other than Thomas and Alito our SC is made up of infidels. Patriots need to get down and dirty and start occupying all the jobs associated with state and local government. Bottom to top take over of states from volunteer poll work, election work, and up through the dirty bureaucracies, replacing the scum with patriots. All the way up to Sheriffs, secretary of state, states AG, and governorships.

We need to thoroughly vet all candidates. We need a “never a rino” policy. It’s time for a clean break from the republi-cons with a patriot party. All candidates in the patriot party must sign a contract with any supporting superpac, that if they take 1 pennies worth from any corporate, shell corporation, entity outside family, and if family receives money from China or any other country or corporation or business, that they will be forced to pay back double to the superpac, adjudicated by arbitration, and depending on the judgment of arbitration, may either continue to receive support or will be cut off and voted out of office.

Ralph C
Ralph C

So what office are you holding now or running for?

DemsAreDictators
DemsAreDictators

Roberts has apparently convinced Barrett and Kavenaugh that they must vote as he tells them or else Dems will pack the court.

President Donald J. Trumper
President Donald J. Trumper

The end result is that Dems already pack the court.

Ralph C
Ralph C

Here is something for you to think about. Say you are a person of ethics in a position appointed by your peers who were strongly supporting you for approval. Now you are faced with a decision to make and yourself and family start receiving threats of great harm if you make that decision by ethics. No one does anything but wait for your decision. Now it becomes people gathering outside your home with signs threatening your kids in their school and public. You look around and your neighbors and those who supported you are nowhere to be seen, they are hiding behind the curtains in their windows looking at the crowd outside your home. So what do you do now and what is your decision guided by? This is America today not the America land of the free and home of the brave, but the land of the let someone else do it and don’t expect me to have your back when it gets to be a tough job. President Trump tried very hard to change this from rah rah rallies for me to get up and join me to support me in doing the job you elected me to do. Jan 6th 2021 he watched the failure of US not HIM. I am 80 and watching this country dying before my eyes and I am worried about my 3 very young great grand children’s futures not my own!

Scruples
Scruples

Election integrity is a state jurisdiction not a federal jurisdiction. I think there is still a Georgia case pending in the 11th circuit before Justice Thomas. The liberals want to federalize elections and reign sovereignly over all of them. That must never happen.

tojak
tojak

In a Presidential Election, votes from all 50 states are tabulated to determine who is elected as President…

So, in this particular case, there is federal jurisdiction, which was ignored by the “scotus” when declining to hear the Texas vs Pennsylvania suit, and again ignored when all election suits were recently refused by the “scotus”

19 Corvids
19 Corvids

Puzzling that nobody addressed the point … the obvious point that you’re making. Texas tried but was squelched.

Ralph C
Ralph C

The huge point being swept under the rug is that FEDERAL ELECTIONS are FEDERAL and the Supreme Court is the RESPONSIBLE court to MAKE SURE the STATES follow the CONSTUTION! Standing and moot is lawyer B S for we are cowards and not doing our job! Common sense sees this whole thing as it is and we the people are NOT expecting/asking to over throw ANY LEGAL VOTES anywhere, we do however want to have an audit of the LEGALITY of ALL the VOTES COUNTED. I believe by now this audit trail has been destroyed deliberately by those who committed voting fraud and that is why the courts and the states don’t want an audit. What to do becomes a real problem now. Probably the most fair and equal would be to throw out the entire Nov 2019 election, fix the fraud problems, and hold another election with the oversight to ensure it is fair. Anything less will punish honest voters who voted legally, throwing out the votes is some areas/states will harm honest voters so a total redo looks to be the best way. This also means locking down DC and the government until it is done which means a temporary very limited bi-partisan body maintaining a limited essential actions of government. Very difficult indeed, not impossible.

Spike
Spike

There are no federal elections. Elections in the US are governed by 50 different sets of state laws (plus DC). That is our great safeguard. Texas does not have a case against Pennsylvania for voting for Biden. The flagrant violation of the Pennsylvania Constitution went to the highest authority: the ELECTED Pennsylvania Supreme Court.

If the US Supreme Court could reach into Pennsylvania to dictate Pennsylvania election law when Pennsylvania refuses to, one could take over every state’s elections just by filling (or packing) the Supreme Court! What things that your state does might be “violations of due process”?!

Common Sense
Common Sense

SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! The Supreme Court of the United States of America. The highest court in the USA, COMPROMISED. It’s a sad day. I used to be so proud of our country, in part because of our separation of powers. Our Founding Fathers set up a Republic so that ‘We The People’ had a voice, and if we had a grievance we could have it heard in the Supreme Court in a fair and judicial manor. Now we are told by the SCOTUS that “WE THE PEOPLE” no longer matter. Clarence Thomas nailed it. Chief Justice Roberts and the rest of them that refused to hear this case should be ashamed of themselves. The events that are playing out with the Executive, Legislative, and now the Judicial branch’s are so egregious it dumbfounds common sense. If the evidence is there, (I believe it is, and Im not alone) then hear the case and rule, DO YOUR JOB! If you do not, then we are no better than a 3rd world banana republic. Watching Garland now refusing to answer simple law questions, makes all of this even worse. What good will it do for republican’s to take back local government offices if the election process is compromised and not even the SCOTUS gives a rats ass. Our country is sliding down hill so fast it’s frightening. The heat, on the slow boil is killing us all while sit and watch.

OldRktSciGuy
OldRktSciGuy

Frogs in the heating pot.

Mech
Mech

They have shown to be worthless in producing a just decision. I am not sure why we as a people look to them for that. Perhaps they functioned that way a long time ago, but that’s not now. Don’t look for or expect any just decisions from them anymore.Waste of time that could be put to better use !

OldRktSciGuy
OldRktSciGuy

We need to look to our founding documents starting with the declaration.

Joe E
Joe E

and this with supposedly a 6-3 court!

Irishsmithy
Irishsmithy

Moments like this is exactly why the Supreme Court exists! They totally failed in their duty!

19 Corvids
19 Corvids

“Failed” or betrayed??

Joe
Joe

um does the writer know the difference between verbal and written? or smackdown and milquetoast feeble dissent? because Judge Thomas hasnt issued a verbal response or even in writing anything that can be remotely defined a “smackdown”…cuckservatives need to go

19 Corvids
19 Corvids

“Verbal” means written as well as oral. But then idiots like you cannot understand such simple matters no matter how hard you try, and thus you whine for your pablum and actually believe that some big daddy will spoon feed you.

Ralph C
Ralph C

Um Joe do you know what a Troll is?

sagebrush
sagebrush

The swamp sold Trump another fraud with Commie Barrett.

Bubba
Bubba

She is going to do a lot of damage before she’s done. Beneath the demure facade, I suspect she’s a misandrist feminist and a big brother, big government, type. Trump is going to rue her nomination until the day he dies. We all will, because she has 40-plus years to tear apart the fabric of the Constitution. If you won’t support the Constitution when it is hard to do so, you are of no use any other time. She failed her oath massively after November 3, 2020. They all did.

Alec Trevelyan
Alec Trevelyan

Well she certainly hasn’t gotten one right yet.

19 Corvids
19 Corvids

They know the difference between form and function. They denied the cases on form despite function … They did this because they are evil and want to destroy the USA, freedom, and liberty.

tojak
tojak

We can thank mcconnell for barrett.

DemsAreDictators
DemsAreDictators

I think Roberts has found a way to intimidate her.
There was a report that Roberts was shouting at both B and K telling them they are rookies and they had better toe the line or something to that effect. I think K is a loss, but B may yet shake her fears…

PS Roberts issued statement saying that report was bunk because none of them were at the SC. Bldg… But that was a dodge, not an outright denial. Staff still meets is SC Bldg and staff joins the zoom calls Justices MUST be using to communicate. Good speaker system can be heard plainly even behind a door.